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6870 and 6850 launch 18th oct

It is different i think, but if i bought a 6870 thinking it was quicker than a 5870 i would not be happy.
(To be honest i can not see it happening)
 
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I just hope the £300 I spent in June on a 2gb 5870 isnt blown out the water by a similarily priced 6000 series card....

:(

Any, the performance is still pretty good so maybe I shouldnt be too unhappy!
 
opethdisciple said:
I just hope the £300 I spent in June on a 2gb 5870 isnt blown out the water by a similarily priced 6000 series card....

:(

Any, the performance is still pretty good so maybe I shouldnt be too unhappy!
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Doesn't matter, if your card performs well enough (other components aside) then who cares about the latest shiny new kit?

It's one of the best gpu's around.
 
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I wonder what a RPE is?
 
" 6870 looks good, and it will hurt NV badly on margins really badly, cant say more though "

he hasnt replied about the 69xx yet apart for telling me that yes they will be the dogs ********
 
Nvidia renaming issue was SAME core, same speed(give or take) renaming as a whole new series on the SAME architecture with very minor changes.

The naming, is completely irrelevant, it doesn't matter. If ther 9800gt was called a 1000070, or a 99999gt, it would still have been fundamentally a 8800gtx pumped out with a new name to fool people, nothing more or less.

The 6770, 6870, whatever the heck it ends up being called will NOT BE a 5770 or 5870 with a new name to pretend its higher performance, new shaders, different shaders, different cards, different cores, fairly large architectural change. The name is irrelevant, they will BE DIFFERENT CORES.

Nordic's stuff makes little sense, they have the 5670/5570 both as 400 shader cards now, so they can either spread them apart and make the 6770/6670/6570 all very distinctly different performance levels, or keep the same set of names, and move the 6870 up tp a 6970 and then have a dual gpu card as a 6990, IE, it makes no sense at all.

They have a clear and easy naming scheme that follows the naming practices of the last several generations, or they can make the whole 69xx naming a complete nightmare.

Either way, again, it won't matter, a 6770, a 6870 or a Joker XT and Joker Pro, they are different cores, different sizes, different design, different performance and different prices.

People are simply getting confused by what people were irked about when Nvidia "rebranded" stuff, the name meant nothing, it was when there was no change and they wanted to sell the same old thing as new people got mad.
 
drunkenmaster said:
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While not the same as what Nvidia did, it still urks people that a 6870 is slower than a 5870, if the 6870 was marginally faster with say much better tessellation or something I could let them off.

Bottom line it's confusing to average Joe who would logically (and rightly so) think that a 6870 is faster than the 5870. In my opinion AMD have little excuse for that as they could have named them a 6810 6830 or 6760 6790 etc. which would make more sense.

At the end of the day though, it's the card that really matters not it's name.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Nvidia renaming issue was SAME core, same speed(give or take) renaming as a whole new series on the SAME architecture with very minor changes.

The naming, is completely irrelevant, it doesn't matter. If ther 9800gt was called a 1000070, or a 99999gt, it would still have been fundamentally a 8800gtx pumped out with a new name to fool people, nothing more or less.

The 6770, 6870, whatever the heck it ends up being called will NOT BE a 5770 or 5870 with a new name to pretend its higher performance, new shaders, different shaders, different cards, different cores, fairly large architectural change. The name is irrelevant, they will BE DIFFERENT CORES.

Nordic's stuff makes little sense, they have the 5670/5570 both as 400 shader cards now, so they can either spread them apart and make the 6770/6670/6570 all very distinctly different performance levels, or keep the same set of names, and move the 6870 up tp a 6970 and then have a dual gpu card as a 6990, IE, it makes no sense at all.

They have a clear and easy naming scheme that follows the naming practices of the last several generations, or they can make the whole 69xx naming a complete nightmare.

Either way, again, it won't matter, a 6770, a 6870 or a Joker XT and Joker Pro, they are different cores, different sizes, different design, different performance and different prices.

People are simply getting confused by what people were irked about when Nvidia "rebranded" stuff, the name meant nothing, it was when there was no change and they wanted to sell the same old thing as new people got mad.
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To put it extremely simply, I don't think anyone really cares if it's a new core or not, lesser performance, rumoured to be the same price = not good, that's how it is.

It's to be expected that a new gen of cards is going to be faster than the previous gen, especially those placed in the same "naming" brackets. If AMD decide to call what we think is a 6770, a 6870, it'll be a big fail on AMD's part in my opinion, it's not cool at all.

Though, I don't think Nordic's article is accurate, what they're reporting would make no sense for AMD to do in my opinion, no sense at all.
 
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