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thats frustrating

but if you are on the reciving end of a 4-0 thrashing, what incentive do you have to stay in and concede even more when you can quit and get another game with a chance to win again?

harsh but its true im afraid.
 
who cares when you can just quit and get another game in less than 30 seconds?

your not playing proud men, your playing 8 years olds with a low attention span who just want to win?

but even in real football, if you could just call the result at half time, im sure many teams would take it. say you're blackpool and 4-0 down at half time to chelsea, whats your motivation to continue into the 2nd? you might as well call it and go home.

its only because the rules of the game say that you cant that teams dont.
 
Bucket said:
Nickg in controversial crazy talk shocker.
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im not saying that that is how i play. but that is the mentality of the people you will be playing. personally id carry on and try to get better, but

if theres not a remote chance of winning, these people are thinkign, why stay?


i kind of do this on COD MW2 to an extent. if i join a server and my team is losing badly and there are enemy choppers or AC130 everywhere, i have no intention of staying and let them rip me to pieces so ill just go and try to find another server.

sadly as fifa is like h2h if that person decides to quit the game wont just carry on as mw2 does.
 
and to be fair it happens in other games and its actually good etiquette to just quit when you've lost. like company of heroes. the aim is either annihalation or VP countdown, but after 20-30mins one side has probably found out they are definately going to lose. so why play another 30 mins to drag out a loss when you could just do everyone a fabour and quit?

except that COH is coded to give the person who quits the loss and subsequent loss of rank.

fifa clearly doesnt understand this and doesnt award the win and loss properly. its sad but ea need to fix it. you cant apeal to human emotion, you have to limit the actions and consequences of them in game to ensure that if you were winning and the other player quits, you get the same benefit as if you had completed the game and won.
 
then your just forcing people to drop hack and unfairly penalising people who have bad internet connections.

or you will force people to play out the game, but its possuible they will just turn their torrents on and make the game such a lag fest you wished that he would just quit and that you'd both be done with it.

you cant force people to do what you want them to do quite so easily. they will rebel and use underhand methods to make the experience as unpleasant as possible and that doesnt benefit either party here.

symmary: theres needs to be a quick 'i concede and lose' button.

at the end of the day, all that chumpish glee you're getting from winning 4-0 before he drops, he is feeling the inverse of that glee, and you might want him to stay so u can ^&%$ about with him, but you just need to be able to let go and say, 'yep i was clearly better than that dude, next game pls'
 
Nickg said:
thats frustrating

but if you are on the reciving end of a 4-0 thrashing, what incentive do you have to stay in and concede even more when you can quit and get another game with a chance to win again?

harsh but its true im afraid.
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I was losing 4-0 the other day and i managed to get it back to 4-4. He then went 6-4 up in extra time and it would have looked like an easy option to quit but nope i stayed and drew back to 6-6. I lost on penalties but this game can go anyway it wanted to. You can get back into the game if you try to instead of constantly quitting.
 
yea but thats because you know you had a chance to get back into it.

if you are simply getting outclassed all over the pitch and you havent got a hope in hell of scoring then it becomes a different situation altogether.
 
hell if i was in charge id go even more crazy

id bend the rules of football. sure a proper game is 90mins

but how about for online purposes, First to 3? i.e first person to score 3 wins. end of. none of this haf time 3 nil down do i want to face another 5 minutes of this? force the quick action.

what about 5 a-side? 6 a-side modes? smaller pitch, less time. who doesnt play 5 or 6 aside football? you could re create your own team and get all your team involved? you;'d run up cricket scores for and against. games would easily be retrievalable and would also be quick fire contests

not that id get rid of online 5 or 10 min ranked matches but provide an alternatvie for those short of attention capacity or something. football on a computer can be manipulated to the nth degree to make it work online.

look at war games, they dont mimic real life. IF you die IRL u dont respawn do you? likewise if u get shot in COD u dont expect to wait 10 mins for a chance to play again do you? if you did you'd probably quit anyway.

i think we need to come to terms with a compromise of real football physics but without the necessity of a full rule affair.
 
Nickg said:
hell if i was in charge id go even more crazy

id bend the rules of football. sure a proper game is 90mins

but how about for online purposes, First to 3? i.e first person to score 3 wins. end of. none of this haf time 3 nil down do i want to face another 5 minutes of this? force the quick action.

what about 5 a-side? 6 a-side modes? smaller pitch, less time. who doesnt play 5 or 6 aside football? you could re create your own team and get all your team involved? you;'d run up cricket scores for and against. games would easily be retrievalable and would also be quick fire contests

not that id get rid of online 5 or 10 min ranked matches but provide an alternatvie for those short of attention capacity or something. football on a computer can be manipulated to the nth degree to make it work online.

look at war games, they dont mimic real life. IF you die IRL u dont respawn do you? likewise if u get shot in COD u dont expect to wait 10 mins for a chance to play again do you? if you did you'd probably quit anyway.

i think we need to come to terms with a compromise of real football physics but without the necessity of a full rule affair.
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Good job you aren't in charge then :rolleyes: :p
 
SO MANY GOD DAMN QUITTERS. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nickg said:
yea cos its loads better now with people dropping in the middle of games leaving you without the win and not even trying to accommodate these quick fire players at all?
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I don't think they have to worry about accommodating a small market of players with the response that EA got from this game in the opening weekend.

I would rather some immature kids dropped out than they adapted the game for quitters.

Why don't you play with friends or people off here, then at least you won't get quitters.

Personally although I like to win it wouldn't bother me if someone was beating me. I would still play out the game. Might even play them again after but if they were obviously better I would thank them for the game and look for another player to play with on my level.

I will give you a game if you are on PS3? PSN: Demondoguk

You will always get sore losers on here but once you find a few that enjoy the game for what it is then you will be glad it isn't tampered with.

If anyone is on tonight, I will be on from around 10pm ish.

I am ok, nothing special, so if you want a quick win then add me :D
 
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