Man imprisoned for not giving police password.

Hamish said:
well unless the police were really stupid they would mount the volume as read only and/or create a backup first.
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What if it's made so it will only work if theres write privileges and must be run from exactly the same hardware?
 
yhack said:
What if it's made so it will only work if theres write privileges and must be run from exactly the same hardware?
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Same hardware? Then just use the same computer but a different drive. If it looks at things like hard drive serial numbers and other things, I'm sure that can be spoofed easily.
 
Delvis said:
Funnily enough, the only way to crack a password isn't only via bruteforce :eek::eek::eek:
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Well, what then? Dictionary attacks? Rainbow tables? Holes in the encryption itself?

In order - dictionary attacks won't work for non-dictionary passwords, rainbow tables don't tend to include non-dictionary password hashes, and most encryption methods fall out of use rapidly when holes are found.
 
Delvis said:
Sadly not, be nice.



Funnily enough, the only way to crack a password isn't only via bruteforce :eek::eek::eek:
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Explain? There are no practical better than brute force attacks against AES? Or tbh any other mainstream ciphers.

Unless you mean external techniques like torture, keyboard radiation monitoring, surveillance etc?
 
Hamish said:
lol, I don't think you understand the amount of effort it takes to break encryption.
Assuming he is using something like AES (probably) and the password is 50 characters as it says.
If you dedicated 100% of the CPU of every computer in the whole world including supercomputers to brute forcing it, I guarentee you that he would have died of old age before the password was broken.

edit assuming there are 50 characters and there are only uppercase, lowercase and numbers then there are this many possibilities for the password:
416,470,721,148,178,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

FYI the number of atoms in the universe is around
100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
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so you're saying there is a chance!!!

;)
 
vonhelmet said:
They have enough evidence to sieze his PC, somit goes a bit beyond your standard "nothing to hide" discussion.
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my mates credit card was cloned and used to TRY and buy access to a legit porn site, however the payment channel used is some times used by people paying to access kid porn.

DEspite the transaction being blocked by the bank and him canceling the card, that was evidence enough to take his PC.

he was told the PC was going to be taken but knew (thought) there was nothing suspect on it.

cost him 20k had to move out of the area, spent months in and out of court, lost his job, and the papers published he was a pedo..

nothing to hide? if any 1 picture in your internet cache looks to be of an underage girl in some sort of sexual pose YOU MUST prove by getting her birth cert she is over age... otherwise YOU are guilty of creating that picture.
 
tntcoder said:
Explain? There are no practical better than brute force attacks against AES? Or tbh any other mainstream ciphers.

Unless you mean external techniques like torture, keyboard radiation monitoring, surveillance etc?
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Oh ignore him, he's talking out of his bunghole.
 
vonhelmet said:
I'm inclined to agree. He only real scope for abuse is if there is genuinely no encrypted volume, but they believe there is, or there is one but they think you're giving a duress key. They could press for your bein jailed on the belief that you have a key to dodgy stuff somewhere, though hopefully a judge would seek proof that such encrypted data existed in the first place.
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We have to send the encrypted data to a specialist centre who have to confirm it's not breakable before we can go down the route of charging for not giving up passwords. We can't do so simply on the belief that there's information in there somewhere.
 
The_TailGunner said:
what ever happened to 'you have the right to remain silent?'
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Labour obviously didn't like this when they were in Govt. so rushed through a Law which apparently has made it illegal to not incriminate yourself, their 'Thoughtcrime' Bill was coming soon but the British Public had enough of them finally.
 
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