Confused about other people

You came on here bitching and moaning that he bigger boys have been mean to you so what do you do, you start beating up smaller kids to make yourself feel big while sucking up to the big guys who still kick **** out of you.


You've fail and failed hard you're now just a whiny hypocrite who's still getting beaten up.


"You know it really hurts where you hit me." I told him to shut up, or I'd do it again.
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Yeah you're right, saying you hurt him really does deserve more abuse.

You want "respect" well trying to get it from preying on those you know are weaker than you is worthless. It just makes you pathetic.
 
Tefal, that's the straw man fallacy.

Where in the thread did I state that I was sucking up to 'big guys'?
Where did I say that I beat him up? I hit him once. This is the kid who is very rude, very cheeky, and was trying to wreck somebody's room. In the past I've always stuck up for him when other people have been giving him a hard time, as I've felt that he didn't deserve it.

A lot of what you're saying is untrue and a gross misinterpretation.
 
TheCenturion said:
Tefal, that's the straw man fallacy.
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Explain?



Where in the thread did I state that I was sucking up to 'big guys'?
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Okay, I sort of took some of OcUK's advice today, and imo it has not ended well.

This morning one kid was whipping me with a towel, and so I turned round and started to walk towards him, but he ran off. He's a year younger.

I saw him later on, he was walking up the stairs and I was walking down them. I gave him a punch, nothing hard, and said "don't whip me with a towel". He punched me back, very slightly harder. He was higher than me on the stairs and he kicked me in the head. It didn't hurt but I pretended that it did, so I started going semi crazy, punching him quite hard. But as I'm not that big it probably wouldn't have hurt him so much. Then I thought to myself "WTF am I doing" and just stopped. I kept telling him not to be such a dick. He told me to keep walking down the stairs, or he would 'hurt' me and push me down the stairs. I told him to apologise, and he said only if I apologise. I didn't at first, but then I did and so did he.

Clearly he walked away the winner

Honestly, I just don't have it in me to seriously harm anyone else, and because of my size I couldn't anyway.
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Sounds like you're sucking up to them.

Followed by good ol
I know the guy, and he'd never take things that far, especially given the situation.
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But he loves me he'd never hurt me.

Basically just like they can't face the fact that the person doesn't really care that much about them you are unable to face the fact that these people don't care at all about you.






Where did I say that I beat him up? I hit him once.
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Really wow you've changed your position quite a bit there haven't you?

So I hit him again,
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Multiple attacks on multiple days, wait that sounds awfully familiar to your op.

A lot of what you're saying is untrue and a gross misinterpretation.
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And a lot of what you're saying has been hypocritical BS


To be honest I can handle the verbal bullying. But the occasional physical abuse I get is something that I really don't like. It's not that it hurts, I can deal with that. I just cannot deal with the complete feeling of inadequacy and powerlessness that overcomes me when it happens as I'm unable to fight back as hard.
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But when you do it to someone else it's ok as you know "they deserved it" I mean the kid dared to tell you that you had hurt him, clearly he needed threats and then more violence, you've got to stomp out that attitude before it goes further and they start telling on you right?


Never bitch about something if you're then going to turn around and do it yourself.

Hyperbole and ad hominem yes, straw man nah not so much.
 
Didn't read your whole post, but from jist, screw them, you sound like a decent guy but a lot of people love to destroy decent guys, so stand strong, don't let your head go down.
 
Strife212 said:
Come on Tefal, he didn't exactly find a random kid and start beating him up.
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And you can bet the people doing it to him didn't just find some random kid.


The op will have left out a lot of details he either doesn't want to admit or is deliberately hiding.

Either way still hypocritical, don't come whining about how the big boys hurting you makes you feel inadequate and helpless when you then go and do it to someone smaller than you.
 
A lot of keyboard warriors have come in this thread saying "hit people, it's the only way they'll stop doing whatever they are doing". To the OP, be careful that you don't turn into the people that made you ****ed off in the first place.

Simply ignoring idiots does work in most cases.
 
Tefal, I don't understand how you'd think I was sucking up to them. I know that they don't think anything of me. I don't think anything of them. However, how many people do you know who would intentionally kick somebody in the head?

With regards to the incident with the junior. when I was his age, I would never go into the room of somebody 4 years older and start messing around. I had asked him politely to go, I had raised my voice, then threatened him. He kept leaving then coming back to annoy the other guy even more. I hit him and he leaves and doesn't return. Then I find out it's not the first time he's done this. Yet since then he hasn't come back. I took care of the problem yes? Admittedly, it was not in a manner that I would have liked to. I wasn't picking on him, I wasn't preying on the weak or anything like that.

When he was telling me that I'd hurt him, please believe me when I say that if I thought I had actually genuinely hurt him, I would have apologised sincerely. Not only was it not my intention, but as I'm trying to tell you, I'm not a bully. He was saying it to annoy me, not because I had hurt him.

Also, it was the first time I've ever been vaguely violent to a junior. Previously I would have told him to get out, then tickle him or something. But this method yielded very little success.

I never beat him up, attacked him, or bullied him. I hit him as he was harrassing somebody after being told to stop.

Tefal said:
Too late...
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How you can say that I have turned into that which I hate? I can't blame you, as you don't know me personally, but I loathe bullying. If I ever thought it was getting to the point where I was entering the territory of bullying, I'd back out immediately. Not to mention that I haven't consistently mocked said junior, I haven't been racist to him, I haven't done things like stick his face against a radiator. So I don't understand how I've turned into these people.

I'll admit that I'm a piece of ****, but not for anything related to this thread.

bibalasvegas said:
A lot of keyboard warriors have come in this thread saying "hit people, it's the only way they'll stop doing whatever they are doing". To the OP, be careful that you don't turn into the people that made you ****ed off in the first place.

Simply ignoring idiots does work in most cases.
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I've ignored it for about 5 years. I decided that I didn't want to put up with it any longer.
 
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Here's an incident that happened today:

Some guys were playing GTA San Andreas. I was in a friend's room just talking to him. Suddenly they all come in and grab me and drag me to the common room where they're playing. They pin me down and make me watch what's on the screen. Turns out what they had done was a cheat to get a plane, and when I came in, they flewit into the tallest building they could find. Then they started shouting stuff at me, such as: "watch this, this is what your people did, this is what you're responsible for!!"

I think the first point to make is that 'my people' weren't responsible for anything like that, these guys are just ridiculously ignorant. rolleyes:
 
OcUK: I've come up with a new philosophy, after some long hard thinking.

I've decided that in any situation, what's the worst thing that could happen? I could die. Apart from that, I could get hurt. But pain is temporary, or most likely it will be temporary. So I've decided that I just don't give a ****. Unless it will impede my attempt to get into medical school.
 
Little update:

It's generally been fairly quiet, but there are occassional incidents, some of which are pretty severe, and from people I wouldn't expect them from :(
In general I'm trying to keep myself feeling positive just by saying that uni is the light at the end of the tunnel.
 
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