Complaints & Customer Service

Soldato
Joined
11 Sep 2009
Posts
14,064
Location
France, Alsace
Complaints & Customer Service (Not OCUK related)

Well recently I've had the joys of moving house, in the midst of all the our start up is plodding on, my girlfriend has a tumour and my nan has had a nasty fall so stress levels have been peaking.

So, the joys of dealing with companies and setting up accounts was something I was really looking forward to. We had Sky installed, which was a slight bind (they did not turn up in the slot they alotted and I had to go back to work, so they then rearranged it for a week later...) but we got there and they commincated with us, so my pain was slightly softened.

Then came our internet. Sky wouldn't allow us to get 2 of their BB packages with the view to binding them, so we went with Virgin who offered the 20MB line. Great.

What a mission that's been. We were due to be provisioned and activated on 4th October, and the BT engineer did his bit and let Virgin know. We were told it would be active by midnight. Nothing.

I called Virgin, who said it was BT's fault and they would sort it within 24hrs. I heard nothing from them at all and nothing happened. I called them up and said I was not prepared to be fobbed off and was told I would receive a call back in 1hr, no call back no update. I made 5 calls to them, to be told different things and no one took responsibility.

On my 3rd call of yesterday, a lady from support said "oh, looks like when I refreshed it just then your account became active..."
I asked, "can you tell me the timestamp on the account on exactly when the line became active..."
I was told in the most flippant manner "Twellllve thiiirty sevvven... do you want the seconds as well?!"
For customer service I was shocked and angered and explained that I was actually told I would get a call, which I hadn't received and I wanted to know whether the activation was a product of my call or whether it happened prior to this. It was due to my call, so I asked to speak to customer services and she put me on hold for 10minutes and then redirected my call back to the main virgin number (the annoying automated one).

This really annoyed me. So what do you do when you want to make a song and dance? I thought 2 fold. I found the name of the Head of Customer Experience for Virgin (Liz Lunn - [email protected]) and sent her an email professionally explaining the situation and my annoyance.
I also used Twitter, which I find very good for this. @virginmedia is who represents them, so a few well aimed bashings that way and I had someone calling me straight away. They made sure I was set up, gave me direct line contact numbers, and to top it off have waived £90 off our account for all set up, engineers, first month and credit to the account.

After a bad week, I finally got a result and feel all the effort and shouting was worthwhile.

Cool story bro, I know, but anyone else got any tales of when they have had success in challenging companies? If so how did you go about it?

Be interesting to see! :D
 
Last edited:
Nup the only happiness I got was cancelling my account with virgin and getting my money back:


I joined Virgin Media and had the install on Monday and have subsequently cancelled and had it disconnected. Why?

1. Excessive broadband throttling - I downloaded F1 2010 on Steam and it almost ground to a halt part way through. Subsequently my broadband stayed throttled for the rest of the evening.

2. India call centre. 1st call - Hang up, 2nd call - Hang up, 3rd call - talk through the unplug and reconnect, didn't fix it - pretend that something is wrong with the phone line and start repeating quieter and quieter "hello, can you hear me" despite all the people in the background being as loud as normal, hang up. 4th call - repeat of 3rd call.

3. TV not picking up channel information 80% of the time - contacted call centre, had the whole reboot spiel, failed - call out tech. System came right - cancelled tech - 20 mins later failed again.

4. Traffic shaping - using Bittorrent to download a legitimate demo for Evochron Mercenaries and my entire internet connection started timing out.

I called customer service this morning and got an aggressive attempt to make me stay with them and persevere with their services despite me telling them that my main reason for wanting to leave was not because of their broken service but their abysmal tech support who lie, pretend to go quiet when they can't fix something and are nothing short of scripted monkeys.

Enough - I will never go back to Virgin - it is such an appalling service.

Virgin are a bunch of scum.
 
been with virgin at home and at uni for years and never had much of an issue, last year we lost the connection, spent 5 mins on the phone, a tech was round the next day who fixed the issue in the box at the end of the road. :/
 
Steve - Sounds very similar and although I got all English people I was treated in a very bad way, their tone was abysmal and manner totally shocking. When you think as Tech Support, you are a 1st point of contact, anyone that has been in support will know that it's almost half down to technical ability and half down to communication.

You're calling obviously because there is a fault, not just for a chat, so normally people are not in the best moods. Your job as support is to defuse the situation and let the customer know what is going on/you are doing all you can to fix it.

Why people work in a customer facing role when they have no people skills is beyond me, but fortunately although it's a massive ballache, I'm not one to let it go and I'm the annoying one that will chase these things until I get something back. A lot of people just grumble on and think oh dear well at least it works now... Sorry but that's not good enough. More people should make a noise and fight back...REVOLUTION! :P

Oh second line, done by Sky is due to be installed on 12th Oct, let's see what delays they manage to pull out the bag...
 
Nup the only happiness I got was cancelling my account with virgin and getting my money back:


I joined Virgin Media and had the install on Monday and have subsequently cancelled and had it disconnected. Why?

1. Excessive broadband throttling - I downloaded F1 2010 on Steam and it almost ground to a halt part way through. Subsequently my broadband stayed throttled for the rest of the evening.

2. India call centre. 1st call - Hang up, 2nd call - Hang up, 3rd call - talk through the unplug and reconnect, didn't fix it - pretend that something is wrong with the phone line and start repeating quieter and quieter "hello, can you hear me" despite all the people in the background being as loud as normal, hang up. 4th call - repeat of 3rd call.

3. TV not picking up channel information 80% of the time - contacted call centre, had the whole reboot spiel, failed - call out tech. System came right - cancelled tech - 20 mins later failed again.

4. Traffic shaping - using Bittorrent to download a legitimate demo for Evochron Mercenaries and my entire internet connection started timing out.

I called customer service this morning and got an aggressive attempt to make me stay with them and persevere with their services despite me telling them that my main reason for wanting to leave was not because of their broken service but their abysmal tech support who lie, pretend to go quiet when they can't fix something and are nothing short of scripted monkeys.

Enough - I will never go back to Virgin - it is such an appalling service.

Virgin are a bunch of scum.

Most of that is your fault, not theirs...
 
Most of that is your fault, not theirs...

Undoubtedly - I should've read the fineprint before signing up however the thing that changed my mind about continuing with them was the way I was treated and the appalling quality of their customer facing service. Had the customer service been ok then I might've considered upgrading my broadband package. As it was, I don't feel that it was up to standard and the way I was treated by the customer services rep when I requested to have the service discontinued confirmed it.

I would argue that as a company marketing their packages as Ultra Fast and Unlimited then they should ultimately be pulled up on that. I was doing nothing illegal, and was using it in what I personally would consider a reasonable manner. Virgins fair use policy and application traffic shaping is an unfortunate way of compensating for what is basically a substandard network that you should not be connected to based on an Unlimited moniker.

Ultra fast... but only when using certain protocols...
Unlimited... as long as you don't exceed a time based cap...

I was a fool to buy into the 'on the surface marketing' and then end result was a thoroughly unpleasant customer experience which regardless of my decisions should not be as sub standard as it was. IMO of course.
 
I shall have to do some reading up on their policies for "fair use" and "ultra fast" then.

Out of interest, what were you led to believe and what was the reality?
 
I shall have to do some reading up on their policies for "fair use" and "ultra fast" then.

Out of interest, what were you led to believe and what was the reality?

It was nothing more than my interpretation and previous experience with other providers when they state 'UNLIMITED' - it has always been unlimited and not application capped. Like I said - it was my own stupid fault for not reading the fine print.

The reality is that it's fast as long as you don't exceed a predetermined volume of traffic over a set time period - if you do then your bandwidth gets capped till midnight by 75%. If you use the P2P protocol that Bittorrent uses then you and anyone else using your line will be unable to browse the internet and the connection effectively becomes useless for anything other than Bittorrent up until the time you turn it off. It then goes back to normal assuming that you have not exceeded the predetermined volume/time limit.

It's just tosh - it's not Unlimited at all.
 
Back
Top Bottom