Is the grass greener on the other side (America)??

Castiel said:
Actually No you didn't as we are referring to the US tax funded state and not the individual's responsibility to themselves.
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"Social responsibility" in the US has always been a private voluntary thing harking back to the frontier days when you had to take care of yourself. If you want to be socially responsible in the US you're free to do so at church or girl scouts.

In the UK it's a government mandate like everything else. It goes back to the feudalistic culture of the country where you always had some wise upper class types lording over and managing your life, whose teet you could suck on.

It's really a gross misunderstanding of American culture to whine about that kind of stuff. Don't want your house burned down? Pay your fire dues. Worried about burglars? Buy a gun. Worried about losing your job to injury? Get disability insurance.
 
[TW]Fox;17548456 said:
Thats the most ridiculous reason I've ever heard, were they a bit dim?

Surely the only price valid for comparison is the after tax price. It doesnt matter how much stuff costs before tax, as you've gotta pay the tax!
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yeah but if the price is higher thats because the state is screwing you not the retailer ;)

doofski said:
I dont know who quoted you $35 k for a doctor ? LNA's start at about $35-40k the mother in law is an RN and she earns about $70-75k a year.

Move to New Hampshire we dont have sales tax here, what you see is what you pay :)

Like many have said the only bad thing about living here is the Medical insurance, the companies will drop you for the slightest thing then refuse to pay for something that you got 3 months prior. But you only really have this problem if you dont get health benefits from your job. If you work for a hospital you'll get good insurance.

My quality of life has improved since i moved here almost 3 months ago. I dont regret moving here from the UK.
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what did you do (or should that be who) to get in ?
 
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kwerk said:
"Social responsibility" in the US has always been a private voluntary thing harking back to the frontier days when you had to take care of yourself. If you want to be socially responsible in the US you're free to do so at church or girl scouts.

In the UK it's a government mandate like everything else. It goes back to the feudalistic culture of the country where you always had some wise upper class types lording over and managing your life, whose teet you could suck on.

It's really a gross misunderstanding of American culture to whine about that kind of stuff. Don't want your house burned down? Pay your fire dues. Worried about burglars? Buy a gun. Worried about losing your job to injury? Get disability insurance.
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Erm..... That's what I was telling him.

Of course poverty doesn't exist in the US so why have a state social mandate. :rolleyes:
 
That's true up to a point kwerk, except for things like medical insurance, life and disability insurance if you have a pre-existing condition you are screwed, at least until when Obama and the Democrats decided that wasn't too fair: p
 
To be honest, if you have money, its good living anywhere. You will be running in socially better circles and all the perks that comes with it.

p.s. Dr House, how come your Green Card lapsed? How many years limitation did it have?
 
Raymond Lin said:
I just realised Dr House = Paras !
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Yah its me :)

Do you mind editing my last name so that when my Patients google me this thread does not come up :)

Raymond Lin said:
To be honest, if you have money, its good living anywhere. You will be running in socially better circles and all the perks that comes with it.

p.s. Dr House, how come your Green Card lapsed? How many years limitation did it have?
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Thats true, living the uk we have a big house and nice cars. I am not moving for material assets as in the short term our spending power would go down by moving to the US. I was more looking for a improved quality of life and better weather.

Re the green card, I was an idiot, I got it in the green card lottery around 5 years ago (mum was born in Africa). I had to visit within 6 moths of getting the green card but I never bothered:mad:

EDIT, BTW how are you? I have not been on MSN in ages
 
Dr House said:
Re the green card, I was an idiot, I got it in the green card lottery around 5 years ago (mum was born in Africa). I had to visit within 6 moths of getting the green card but I never bothered:mad:

EDIT, BTW how are you? I have not been on MSN in ages
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Just visit? not even have to live there for like 6 months?

I would've gone for a little R&R or shopping trip !

I am okay, but I see you've done well since we last chat !
 
Raymond Lin said:
Just visit? not even have to live there for like 6 months?

I would've gone for a little R&R or shopping trip !

I am okay, but I see you've done well since we last chat !
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Yah, quite a lot has changed, finished uni, got married next step = kids.

Re green card, I would have had to visit every 6 months however I did not know you could apply for a exception because I was studying. To be honest I am not too worried about getting a Visa more a Job or passing the USMLEs
 
Dr House said:
Yah its me :)

Do you mind editing my last name so that when my Patients google me this thread does not come up :)
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Bit pointless isnt it ?

Given that the entry of you in the OcUK Rogues Gallery is the number 3 result ? and the thread of you asking for your name to be changed to House is the 5th result ? and that if you expand the search Google has already cached Raymonds post ?
 
you can be amazed at what comes up on google ;)

I'm actually quite proud of the fact that there are 0 results for my name on google that pertain to me. Theres a facebook profile of somebody else with the same name -but its not me and they live in the US.

The actual christian name i use (as opposed to the one thats on my ID and stuff) has 0 results as well and all the results for are for a popular popstar lol.
 
Tefal said:
And when the airline says no you can't fly?
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Even if he were a vegetable the airline would allow him to fly, the problem would be the £15 a mile charge for medical care he would need for the journey.

Of course, if he has a communicable disease they wouldn't allow him to fly but he would receive treatment FOC in the US anyway.
 
maybe he doesn't actually care and would rather live out his dreams or die trying than be stuck at a dead end. hes 19 , he could mess it all up and in most cases still come home and live the normal life that he didn't originally want to live.
 
"andy" said:
maybe he doesn't actually care and would rather live out his dreams or die trying than be stuck at a dead end. hes 19 , he could mess it all up and in most cases still come home and live the normal life that he didn't originally want to live.
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A great outlook but you have to draw the line somewhere. You cant just do totally ridiculous and reckless things like go and live in a country with no proper medical provisions and no real plan beyond a few dreams that you've never been to and know nothing about beyond what you've seen in the films.

He can and should move there if he wants - but he should do it properly, get himself established with a job and then move once he's already set up.

Whilst you need to take a risk to enjoy yourself you need to be a least slightly sensible or you won't be able to continue to take risks in the future.

I mean seriously, his healthcare plan is 'fly back to the UK' - what sort of plan is that :D
 
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