2010 Evo Tyre Test - now with added KU31.

Then ****, you better sell your 5 and get the best ncap rated car that there is and stick the best tyres on it. Excellent.
 
I dunno it just seems a bit much to do lap times and wet lap times, sure I can see the merit of wet and dry stopping distances for emergencies, but beyond that, personally I see little to gain from having a few seconds faster round the track I never race around.
 
Firestar_3x said:
It baffles me how people can't seem to take these results and then apply them to real world situations.
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I can't see how people can't apply common sense to these results and realise that the tyre is far from bad.
Great you have to drive slower in the wet! Wow so what? Why are you racing around in the wet on the street anyway?
 
Why are you talking about racing around, the track test is to show wet weather performance using a method which provides consistency across the tyres tested, it shows the overall grip of the tyre in cornering / acceleration and braking situations.

So now i have to drive even slower than the conditions would allow because i've fitted sub standard tyres, what about on the motorway in the rain are you going to drive along at 60mph instead of 70 for that 370mile trip?

Also how is driving slower going to account of the out of the blue realworld situations, i.e. someone pulling out infront of you, standing water etc, these things you can't really account for other than having the best things connecting you to the road.
 
[TW]Fox;17553997 said:
its good to know you've got the best possible chance of stopping and you've not compromised this chance in order to save some money.
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So when are you fitting those 8-pot 350mm carbon-ceramic brakes to the 530 then?

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Thats absolutely the same as picking decent tyres, honest.

Buying excellent tyres is something you can do easily - they are made in all popular fitments, are not prohibitively expensive and are available at all tyre shops. Spending £2000 on a big brake kit is rather different.
 
I wonder what would stop quicker, standard brakes with a £700 set of Contisport Contact 5Ps or a Kumho KU31s for £344 with a £350 investment in better brake pads/discs.
 
The better tyres, because in an emergency stop situation brake fade doesn't matter and the standard brakes can overcome the friction of the tyres.
 
Firestar_3x said:
So now i have to drive even slower than the conditions would allow because i've fitted sub standard tyres, what about on the motorway in the rain are you going to drive along at 60mph instead of 70 for that 370mile trip?

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Yes you drive slower because you have fitted lesser standard tyres. Why is that hard to understand or expect?
 
I can see why some people get so scared of anything less than ultra premium tyres when apparently the fact that an RS Megane being thrashed at the limit around a track is slightly slower on cheaper tyres means you can apparently no longer do above 60mph on a motorway...

I can totally understand the direct relevance of emergency braking tests, and aquaplaning tests etc. but I really think the laptime ones need to be taken with a pinch of salt - you should never be driving your car to those sorts of extremes on the roads anyway, so whether it can take a 60mph bend on a racetrack slightly faster shouldn't be of massive importance in comparison to the other tests. It may show 'overall' grip but frankly, it's showing grip at extremes you should never have need of on a road. Emergency braking - absolutely. Performance around a track? Not so sure. The fact the Kumho is a few seconds slower is absolutely no indication that it is a horrifically bad or dangerous tyre as some people seem to be trying to portray it.
 
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DreXeL said:
I'd actually really like to see a proper test like this with only mid-range tyres. The ku31 against the Toyo T1R, Falken fk451 etc. And at the same time throw a Chinese ditch-finder into the mix. Would love to see the results of that.
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Me too.
 
Personally i'd prefer to just see a decent test with a much wider range of tyres. Start off with the best of the best like the ContiSports and F1s and work down, picking out things like the FK-452, KU31, T1-R etc. finishing up with something from WanLi and such like.

Get a decent range of tyres to show how performance really varies with price, whether there is a massive drop off in performance with the real cheapies or a plateau of performance with the premiums.

All we ever seem to get are a load of premium tyres with one mid range like this one, or a bunch of crap tyres with one mid range... No one seems to want to do a decent comparison of the whole performance range
 
wet track times and wet cornering G's have no relevance to real life situations?!??!

based on the results, which tyre would you rather have fitted when you need to avoid a deer on a wet road?
 
I'd obviously prefer the best ones, however I wouldn't be living my life in fear that because a tyre was a few seconds slower around a track I was counting down the seconds until I plowed head on into a deer because my tyres were thus completely unable to steer in wet weather.

Not quite as good? Sure.

Dangerously worse? Not even close.

I just don't agree with the completely black and white mentality that unless you spend twice the money on the absolute best, you're a ticking time bomb on your way to a fiery death.
 
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