if you had the money, would you have your body frozen when you die?

Nexus18 said:
Maybe they might have something like the T-Virus in the future :p
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loo kat it this way it's like being given a completely totalled car, chassis, bodywork, engine, gearbox suspension everything is ****ed, every individual gear is broken.


You can't replace parts so all you're going to have to rebuild every gear and part through welding and grinding etc.


It's just not going to happen.


Not to mention you think the few grand it costs now will pay for such massive health care in future?
 
i'd do it, provided by then, nanorobotics could "fix" me when i unfreeze :p

it'd be amazing to see what it would be like in the future like if we've managed to get into space (colonizing new planets), or, the whole world is maybe devastated by nuclear war etc.
 
Just 3 problems to solve:

Firstly there would need to be a way to prevent cell damage during the freezing process due to water expansion.
Secondly there would need to be a way to revive the subject.
Finally the subject would need to be frozen while still alive.
 
Tefal said:
loo kat it this way it's like being given a completely totalled car, chassis, bodywork, engine, gearbox suspension everything is ****ed, every individual gear is broken.


You can't replace parts so all you're going to have to rebuild every gear and part through welding and grinding etc.


It's just not going to happen.


Not to mention you think the few grand it costs now will pay for such massive health care in future?
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Lol yeah I know, I was partially joking about the T-Virus thing btw :p

But it would be so cool :p, if something like this could happen, go on admit it, you know you want to :p

I am a believer that anything is possible through technology TBH, the only thing that limits us is our technology of our time.

-Tauren- said:
i'd do it, provided by then, nanorobotics could "fix" me when i unfreeze :p
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Lol :p

:D
 
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There is a particular chemical called cryoprotectants, if a high concentration of this chemical is added to tissues, it allows tissues to support a very low temperature. There is no ice formation at such low temperature. The term vitrification is defined as a temperature where ice is not formed, and it is below 120 degrees celsius. This makes it possible to physically vitrify several of our organs such as the human brain. It assures perfect preservation without freezing.
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Tefal said:
but even if they can defrost you, you've still been dead for hours before you where frozen anyway, so have long since become irreparably dead.
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by the limits of medical knowledge today.....

Go back 100 years and your heart stopping would pretty much mean you couldn't be brought back, different story today.

perhaps improvements in nano technology might mean that damaged cells could be repaired etc...

though yes in reality it is all a bunch of what ifs and realistically freezing yourself is likely a waste of money.

I'd be more interested in whether someone could create an artificial interface that connects with/becomes part of the brain and then slowly replaces parts of the brain over time essentially becoming part of you. If we're looking for a solution to immortality then perhaps becoming part human/part computer is it. Once your human body gives up then perhaps you could still exist as a sentient being in a more virtual form. Or depending on what medical ethics allow perhaps a clone of yourself aged 20 something could be created and the artificial brain implanted.
 
dowie said:
by the limits of medical knowledge today.....

Go back 100 years and your heart stopping would pretty much mean you couldn't be brought back, different story today.

perhaps improvements in nano technology might mean that damaged cells could be repaired etc...

though yes in reality it is all a bunch of what ifs and realistically freezing yourself is likely a waste of money.

I'd be more interested in whether someone could create an artificial interface that connects with/becomes part of the brain and then slowly replaces parts of the brain over time essentially becoming part of you. If we're looking for a solution to immortality then perhaps becoming part human/part computer is it. Once your human body gives up then perhaps you could still exist as a sentient being in a more virtual form. Or depending on what medical ethics allow perhaps a clone of yourself aged 20 something could be created and the artificial brain implanted.
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+1

Well said

Plus look at technology now a days, some stuff we thought would never be possible especially when seeing films with all that technology/electronics stuff, like automatic driven cars etc. now it is possible today e.g. look at googles car, they have pretty much done that, no crashes etc. Personally I didn't think that would be possible for another 3+ years :eek:

Also smart phones are becoming very advanced now a days, nearly everything can be done on them.

Now I know that this is on a completely different level to repairing/reviving cells and pretty much bringing people back from the dead :o (defrosting them :p), but with the right technology and time it will be possible IMO. Although probably not till where like 80+ :(
 
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If it was possible... No, simply because my lifetime is here and now, my loved ones and dearest friends are here and now. Don't think I could be without them, tbh, would be the worst fate. Being totally 100% alone in the world.

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dowie said:
by the limits of medical knowledge today.....

Go back 100 years and your heart stopping would pretty much mean you couldn't be brought back, different story today.

perhaps improvements in nano technology might mean that damaged cells could be repaired etc...

though yes in reality it is all a bunch of what ifs and realistically freezing yourself is likely a waste of money.

I'd be more interested in whether someone could create an artificial interface that connects with/becomes part of the brain and then slowly replaces parts of the brain over time essentially becoming part of you. If we're looking for a solution to immortality then perhaps becoming part human/part computer is it. Once your human body gives up then perhaps you could still exist as a sentient being in a more virtual form. Or depending on what medical ethics allow perhaps a clone of yourself aged 20 something could be created and the artificial brain implanted.
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n that case why bother freezing yourself, if they can reconstruct every cell in your body perfectly they could do it just the same from your long rotten skeleton.
 
Tefal said:
well 3, how is your long dead self going to pay for the treatment?

You have no money, and you only paid a long since dead bloke to freeze you.
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I suspect people in the future might want you as a living museum exhibit for a while and would happily foot the bill. :p
 
Tefal said:
well 3, how is your long dead self going to pay for the treatment?

You have no money, and you only paid a long since dead bloke to freeze you.
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Again, if this is possible, surely you would put a very large amount of savings away, interest can do wonderful things :)

ags
 
Tefal said:
n that case why bother freezing yourself, if they can reconstruct every cell in your body perfectly they could do it just the same from your long rotten skeleton.
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Good point actually, be just like the fifth element in some ways, where they do that to recreate the 5th element, just from her burned bone :p :D

Good thinking :D

This might be possible boys! :p

Tefal said:
well 3, how is your long dead self going to pay for the treatment?

You have no money, and you only paid a long since dead bloke to freeze you.
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Hmmm, pay in advance and make sure there was some contract on computer, paper and whatever else there is :p stating that I have paid for everything and that once possible I should be brought back to life :D :p
 
Nexus18 said:
Hmmm, pay in advance and make sure there was some contract on computer, paper and whatever else there is :p stating that I have paid for everything and that once possible I should be brought back to life :D :p
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Why would the honour it though? odds are the treatment of the first person (and hundreds of years of storage) will have bankrupted the company long ago and they're no longer willing, obliged or able to honour the contract.
 
Tefal said:
Dead people can't have money.


Unless there's a major change in the law you'd have no savings or investments.
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Hey. Hey... That's not what happened in Futurama.

Oh also my one didn't need any money from the frozen person, just an organisation from the future willing to put you on display for the entertainment of the general public.
 
i'd rather spend the money launching my body into space, more chance of aliens finding it and bringing me back from the dead, than waking up with walt disney.
 
I want to be cremated so I can add to global warming and take you all with me!

Being frozen is stupid and pointless, I would quiet like my ashes shot into space just because I think that would be a little bit cool.

Pointless still but hey I'll be dead.
 
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