XFX Radeon HD 6870 Smiles for the Camera

An Exception · 14 Oct 2010 at 16:39

^^^
What card are you talking about exactly Bart's or Cayman?
Guess you haven't got to grips with the overhauled numbering system yet...

Freddie1980 · 14 Oct 2010 at 16:42

Ejizz said:
^^^
What card are you talking about exactly Bart's or Cayman?
Guess you haven't got to grips with the overhauled numbering system yet...

To be honest I've been hawking BS about the numbering system as I didn't think AMD would change it but it looks like and I’m not to proud to admit this that I'm wrong and I'm also assuming that the card pictured above will be Bart's as it's fairly small.

An Exception · 14 Oct 2010 at 16:44

^^^
In that case then, no Bart's won't be 30% faster, but I don't know who actually thought it would be 30% faster.
Cayman will likely be 30% faster than 5870 though.

bigjimmyauk · 14 Oct 2010 at 16:55

does someone mind explaining all the barts,caymen, xt stuff

i'm lost apart from they are called the 6000 series

Freddie1980 · 14 Oct 2010 at 17:00

Ejizz said:
^^^
In that case then, no Bart's won't be 30% faster, but I don't know who actually thought it would be 30% faster.
Cayman will likely be 30% faster than 5870 though.

True I never expect Barts to be 30% quicker but I expected Barts to be labbled as the 6770 and 6750 and Caymans as 6870 and 6850 which to makes sense. I guess someone at AMD thought it made to much sense and decided it was time for a change.

bigjimmyauk said:
does someone mind explaining all the barts,caymen, xt stuff

i'm lost apart from they are called the 6000 series

It looks like the 6870 won't be any faster then then old 5870 and the core will be called Barts. The true 5870 replacement has a core called Cayman and will most likely be branded as a 6970.

ViRuS2k · 14 Oct 2010 at 17:03

Clayman should have been the GPU with the 6870 name. not Barts. hence the confusion why BARTS is slower than 5870 cards.

RavenXXX2 · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:01

Early pricing for the 6850/70.

An pair of early listings by a Dutch online store indicates what prices of some Radeon HD 6800 series products could look like, in that part of the world. The Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 (part number 11180-00-20R), is listed at €158.82 without taxes (€189 with it); and Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 (part number 21179-00-40R) at €214.29 w/o taxes (€255 with it). We conservatively estimate the USD pricing to look like $199 for the HD 6850, and $249 for the HD 6870, on the basis of this listing.

6870 looking to be in excess of £200.

6850 could be the card to get and clock it, similar to the way the 5850 can be clocked within a few percent of a 5870.

MoRT489 · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:04

any results on how these compare to the 5870? no one is biting at mine, must be the anticipation of new cards!

Martini1991 · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:06

So, about 180 quid for the 6870?

RavenXXX2 · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:10

With VAT more like £225

Balb0wa · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:11

RavenXXX2 said:
With VAT more like £225

£225 then ocuk £30 early adopter fee

RavenXXX2 · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:13

^^ lol

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:33

Looks like the GPU is smaller than the HD5850 and HD5870:

http://www.techpowerup.com/132802/Radeon-HD-6870-PCB-and-GPU-Pictured.html

arc@css · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:41

So, it might not follow the trend on previous card launches where the performance jump is substantial. Kind of reminds me of another old thread where a lower jump suggested by me was accidentally right.

TheRealDeal · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:48

arc@css said:
So, it might not follow the trend on previous card launches where the performance jump is substantial. Kind of reminds me of another old thread where a lower jump suggested by me was accidentally right.

Well there is rumours now saying this is a 960 shader card. If the performance figures are true about this card being close to a 5870 in performance what kind of jump can we expect from the 1920 shader cayman gpu. Thats double the shaders so could we be looking at 60-70% more performance on top of the barts card.

RavenXXX2 · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:51

I think you will be firmly looking at 5850 performance and not 5870, quote me on that if I'm wrong. Be interesting to see how much overclocking headroom is left on the 6870 with it having a high 900 core clock.

TheRealDeal · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:56

RavenXXX2 said:
I think you will be firmly looking at 5850 performance and not 5870, quote me on that if I'm wrong. Be interesting to see how much overclocking headroom is left on the 6870 with it having a high 900 core clock.

Yea you could be right but all the rumours and supposed leaked benchmarks show it in between a 5850 and 5870. The last one i heard was it performs like an overclocked 5850. I have yet to hear any rumours yet that don't put it ahead of a 5850.

Gashman · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:57

lol how many threads does there need to be showing pictures of what look the exact same as current cards, nothing looks different from the current HD line. so why make so many threads? :confused:

RavenXXX2 · 14 Oct 2010 at 19:59

Why not, you don't have to read them, this thread is special in the sense that we have the first pic of an AIB branded 6870.

HW91 · 14 Oct 2010 at 20:06

not sure whether to think AMD is being extremely confident with their pricing (c'mon, a 5770 replacement for the price of a GTX 470?) or that the 69xx replaces 58xx rumours are false