Where are the good deals to be found?

On another note, even speaking as an ex Vectra VXR owner, i just wouldnt.

At this kind of money the world is your oyster. Alternatives:

Impreza RB320

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1827433.htm

Mistsubishi Evo X

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1953118.htm

Ford Mondeo 2.5T Titanium X

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../radius/1500/keywords/2.5t titanium?logcode=p

B7 Audi S4

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2163281.htm

Vauxhall VXR8

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../radius/1501/postcode/wf13hl/page/1?logcode=p

BMW 335i M Sport

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...eywords/335i/postcode/wf13hl/page/1?logcode=p

Mercedes C350 Sport

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../1500/keywords/c350/postcode/wf13hl?logcode=p


I've already listed the downpoints in one of my earlier posts, and you seem undeterred by my predictions of epic depreciation. But this is silly


no_1_dave said:
Because i've test driven it & loved it.
Also I like Vauxhall, I know no one else here does, however I trust them & know where I stand with them. When you've been in an 80mph head on crash in one with minimal injuries then they earn your trust. I've also not seen a single bad review of it & enjoy a powerful car
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Jesus man, any car listed above is going to protect you just as well from a front end head on impact as a vauxhall.

Safety isnt a vauxhall thing. Its a generation thing. Any large car that has commenced production in this decade is going to protect you just as well. Stop kidding yourself that you've found a legitimate reason to buy an car because you dont want to think about any other brand due to some misguided loyalty. Granted some of the options above may be a bit too much (evo and impreza specificly) but the world is your oyster here. Dont shoot yourself in the foot because you're too scared to step outside the vauxhall dealer.
 
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My sentiments exactly

what the depreciation has levelled out, and its not going to loose you a ton of cash, it will be a good buy.
 
MrLOL said:
At this kind of money the world is your oyster. Alternatives:

Impreza RB320

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1827433.htm

Mistsubishi Evo X

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1953118.htm

Ford Mondeo 2.5T Titanium X

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201040369876673/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l/price-to/20000/model/mondeo/make/ford/postcode/wf13hl/page/1/radius/1500/keywords/2.5t%20titanium?logcode=p

B7 Audi S4

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2163281.htm

Vauxhall VXR8

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../radius/1501/postcode/wf13hl/page/1?logcode=p

BMW 335i M Sport

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...eywords/335i/postcode/wf13hl/page/1?logcode=p

Mercedes C350 Sport

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../1500/keywords/c350/postcode/wf13hl?logcode=p
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I honestly had no idea that the OP could get the kind of things listed above for the same budget. That is truely epic and goes a long way to explaining why the depreciation on the VXR is so eye-wateringly heavy.
 
 
You can get manual s4 and vxr8 no problem, I just quickly pulled some adverts to illustrate what else is available for this kind of money.
 
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Like i said the Impreza and the and the Evo are a bit hardcore and may not to be everybodys taste, but its a perfect illustration of what sort of metal this kind of money buys.

I'm not suggesting the OP buy anything vastly different either, just other £20k rapid saloons !
 
Yeah, i really don't like scooby's or evo's at all. No doubting there ability and all, but i just can't like them. There is one scooby i like, i think it's the P1.

Just when you see one it's always a blue one with gold wheels, and a horrible 6" can on the back, that drones loud and crap. Thats probably what puts me off them, lol.

A VXR8 would be awesome, other than filling it up hehe.
 
I dont want an Evo or Impreza even though they are good cars. I don't want a car that looks like a rally car. I'd look like an idiot sat in them with my 3 year old in the back.
The VXR8 is good but I dont like the inside and it still looks too boy racer.

Insignia VXR is my choice. Just need to find the right one at the right price & didnt know all the places to look.
 
That one for £20,500 is about the only one you'll see at this price point for at least another month or so.

Hope you like waiting.

For the record, despite being quite fond of vauxhalls, i still think you're barking mad to be splashing this kind of money on a nearly new Insignia VXR. I wont lecture you about how it isn't nearly as fast as most of the cars i've listed above, because you've driven one yourself and based upon your experience of a car with half the power, think its a rocket ship, which is understandable. I guess your not likely to want to tune it either, so an engine that struggles with heat problems and isn't as tunable as some of the stuff from VW / Audi group or even the 2.0 Turbo in the Insignia 2.0T SRi / New Astra VXR isn't a problem either.

I've forewarned you about epic depreciation and that it will lose another 10/15k before 24 months of ownership is up which hasnt perturbed you either. I expect you already know most of the cars on the 2nd hand market have the Forged lightweight 20 inch wheels (£2300 each if you need to buy another) which require tyres at over £800 for a set and that being a VXR, the insurance wont be cheap either being the car theifs favourite the VXR, and petrol not being cheap either with hardly anybody managing to average much above 20mpg with this engine. Not to mention the highest tax bracket either. So I just hope you enjoy it and dont regret it.

Did i mention that it still uses the same F40 gearbox that was used in the Vectra V6 diesel (and the VXR) which GM production documents state is only rated to take a max of 295lb/ft of constant torque ?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/index.php?page=trans_guide

Yes, the Insignia VXR has 321 lb/ft, Vauxhall cost cutting again ;)
 
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MrLOL said:
That one for £20,500 is about the only one you'll see at this price point for at least another month or so.

Hope you like waiting.

For the record, despite being quite fond of vauxhalls, i still think you're barking made to be splashing this kind of money on a nearly new Insignia VXR. I wont lecture you about how it isn't nearly as fast as most of the cars i've listed above, because you've driven one yourself and based upon your experience of a car with half the power think its a rocket ship, which is understandable. I guess your not likely to want to tune it either, so an engine that struggles with heat problems and isn't as tunable as some of the stuff from VW / Audi group or even the 2.0 Turbo in the Insignia 2.0T SRi / New Astra VXR isn't a problem either.

I've forewarned you about epic depreciation and that it will lose another 10/15k before 24 months of ownership is up which hasnt perturbed you either. I expect you already know most of the cars on the 2nd hand market have the Forged lightweight 20 inch wheels (£2300 each if you need to buy another) which require tyres at over £800 for a set and that being a VXR, the insurance wont be cheap either being the car theifs favourite the VXR, and petrol not being cheap either with hardly anybody managing to average much above 20mpg with this engine. Not to mention the highest tax bracket either. So I just hope you enjoy it and dont regret it.

Did i mention that it still uses the same F40 gearbox that was used in the Vectra V6 diesel (and the VXR) which GM production documents state is only rated to take a max of 295lb/ft of constant torque ?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/index.php?page=trans_guide

Yes, the Insignia VXR has 321 lb/ft, Vauxhall cost cutting again ;)
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I will take all this on board.
The torque thing I havent read anywhere else, surely if it was going to be a problem they wouldnt have done it?
Insurance is £150 per year more then I pay on my 51 plate 1.7 astra.
Tyres are pricey but needing 2 a year max should be ok.
Tax is £440 yearly, again pricey but doable.

The 2.0 turbo 4x4 is only about £1k cheaper then the VXR so the main choice is either the 2.0 diesel or the VXR and i'd rather the VXR out of the 2. I'm also the sort of person who blows money very easily so if I dont go for the VXR i'll just waste the difference on something useless anyway. The money is coming from my insurance payout from my accident in 2007 so i'd just like to treat myself :)

I can budget tyres/services/tax etc into my quarterly bonuses which I tend to **** up the wall so the only extra coming from my salary is doing 20-25mpg instead of 55mpg. But then, I only do about 500-700 miles a month...
 
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The other choice would be the 2.0T 4 cylinder petrol engine.

Its the new Direct Injection Ecotec unit, and remaps to 300bhp with an exhaust ...
 
Seriously, open up the blinkers and go look at some other cars - if nothing else to reassure your decision.

Of course it felt awesome next to your astra, so will any other car with a decent amount of power - doesn't mean the first car you drive is the best bet. Crash safety is pretty similar throughout the marques these days and vauxhall aren't the pinnacle of reliability. Nice bit of blind faith there - "if it was a problem they wouldn't do it"...really?

2 tyres a year on a 250+ bhp fwd might be a bit optimistic too unless you're doing very low miles
 
no_1_dave said:
The 2.0 turbo 4x4 is only about £1k cheaper then the VXR
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At the moment. That thing is going off a cliff depreciation wise, nobody wants a 2.0 Turbo 4x4 Insignia. 12-18 months time and thats a sub £10k car, easily!

This is a madness pricepoint to buy a Vauxhall.

I'm also the sort of person who blows money very easily so if I dont go for the VXR i'll just waste the difference on something useless anyway. The money is coming from my insurance payout from my accident in 2007 so i'd just like to treat myself :)

I can budget tyres/services/tax etc into my quarterly bonuses which I tend to **** up the wall so the only extra coming from my salary is doing 20-25mpg instead of 55mpg. But then, I only do about 500-700 miles a month...
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Most bizarre logic ever :confused:
 
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iaind said:
Seriously, open up the blinkers and go look at some other cars - if nothing else to reassure your decision.

Of course it felt awesome next to your astra, so will any other car with a decent amount of power - doesn't mean the first car you drive is the best bet. Crash safety is pretty similar throughout the marques these days and vauxhall aren't the pinnacle of reliability. Nice bit of blind faith there - "if it was a problem they wouldn't do it"...really?

2 tyres a year on a 250+ bhp fwd might be a bit optimistic too unless you're doing very low miles
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Insignia VXR is 4x4 so will sadly wear all the tyres equally.

at over £200 each :eek:
 
Not anti-Vauxhall in the slightest, but I just see no desirable features about that insignia!
There is nothing about the car that stands above the rest compared to the options available, take the advice given, at least do yourself a favour and test drive some other cars!
 
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