Old skool RPGs - Really that good or just nostalgia?

IWD1 was very combat focused, and was essentially one big dungeon crawl after another, but they still managed to build a pretty good story around it. I quite liked that you had to create a full party, it meant you didn't have to choose a single class at the start and hope it wasn't going to be rubbish :)
 
Tefal said:
there was not so much time spent on gfx (which today you need to make sales) and in the case of the fallouts due to the obviously simpler mechanics of player movement/interaction meant they could do so much more with the writing etc.

fallout 1&2 are still the 2 best written games ever tbh.
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I have these in the post actually, around £2 they cost for the whole collection inc. Fallout tactics.

I'm undecided whether or not to jump straight into 2(as it is supposed to be better than one) or not.

Can you remember how long it took you to complete one?

Cheers
 
i played 2 first and i reckon it's a good way to do it.

you can complete it over a long time like i took the first time (dunno exactly) or if you know how you can do it very fast.

But you can't do everything o none playthrough, unlike modern handholding rpgs doing certain things will make it impossible for you to do others etc.

Although be warned the start of 2 (basically it's little tutorial) is a bit dull but don't let it put you off it's only short.

Also with number 2 don't forget to get the child patch from no mutants allowed, uk law meant they removed the children which broke a few quests but the patch adds them back in, also the killaps community patch but not the restoration project.


They had to remove the children as apparently in UK law shooting a child in the eyes with a Gatling laser is in some way immoral :confused:

but with the patch you're back to setting them on firewith a flame thrower and watching them dance.
 
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Anyone play Revenant? More hack and slash diablo style than anything in depth. Spiders that drop ham on the floor etc. was awesome.
 
ColdAsIce said:
I am not sure why there is such a huge push for 3D only games. If there was to be a new RPG created with hand drawn 2d backgrounds but with lots of extra detail. Would be an instant buy for me :)
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Drawn for 1920x1200, scrolling seamlessly making full use of graphic card. They could easily make 2d games that would blow away visually the bulk of 3d games.
 
I am not sure many people would classify Sea Dogs as an 'old school' RPG, but boy was it fun. Progressing from a small 30 crew sloop to a 1st rate Man of War with a fleet of 3 other ships and attacking ports and treasure fleets, it was what the perfect non-linear RPG is to me.

And my god the music, the music, probably the best I have ever heard in a game, was conducted by an entire Russian Orchestra, seriously youtube it if you are into orchestral classical music.
 
I reinstalled Baldur's Gate 2 last month and it's still easily my favourite game of all time.

When that came out I out in 16 hour shifts for the first week or two. I'd turned into a zombie by the time I finished it:D
 
Exsurgo said:
I am not sure many people would classify Sea Dogs as an 'old school' RPG, but boy was it fun. Progressing from a small 30 crew sloop to a 1st rate Man of War with a fleet of 3 other ships and attacking ports and treasure fleets, it was what the perfect non-linear RPG is to me.

And my god the music, the music, probably the best I have ever heard in a game, was conducted by an entire Russian Orchestra, seriously youtube it if you are into orchestral classical music.
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Might I suggest playing 'Pirates of the Caribbean' (aka Seadogs 2) and the wonderful, if uninspiringly named 'Build Mod'?

http://forum.piratesahoy.net/forum/37-potc-build-mod/

Orcish-Horde said:
Drawn for 1920x1200, scrolling seamlessly making full use of graphic card. They could easily make 2d games that would blow away visually the bulk of 3d games.
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Correct me if I'm wrong anyone in-the-know, but from what I've been told, modern graphics cards aren't very good at handling 2D. Not at what would be considered a modern standard anyway.
 
Podmonkey said:
Anyone play Revenant? More hack and slash diablo style than anything in depth. Spiders that drop ham on the floor etc. was awesome.
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Yes! I remember playing a demo of that game when I was about 11, must have been 1999-2000. That was a lot of fun, great combat - very visceral if I remember correctly. I bought the full game a few years ago but I can't seem to get it to run of vista or 7 :confused:

Anyway, for me the last great RPG was Morrowind. Nothing since that really has really hit if off with me. I like Mass Effect and the Witcher but theres just something missing about them, can't get into them. I think its to do with atmosphere as the people above said.

Just can't beat that trio of Baldur's Gate 1&2/Planescape Torment/Fallout 1&2
 
I think BG 1 is one of the few games I've actually ever completed, great game....

Think i'll get it from GoG as well as Planetscape Torment, which I've never played but people rate as one of the best games. :)
 
I wrote in the gog thread that i was having trouble getting into Arcanum, now im reading through the maunal (long boring night shifts have their advantages!) im dying to get back into it. Very much like Fallout mixed up with Baldurs gate.

It goes to show that its not just nostalgia since i have not played it before, old school rpgs are definatally better than the bew stuff.

As a few have said with Dragon Age, i enjoyed it to start with but by the end i was struggling to keep going. It lacked the atmosphere.

The last game i got really excited about was The Witcher, it came out of nowhere and blew me away. I just got around to playing the Risen demo and have just sent off for it as well as ME2 - From playing the demo of Risen i think im in for a treat.
I hear ME2 is good. ME1 was good apart from anything outside the story line; side quests were crap, interiors were all the same, the space buggy part was awful, the DLC was the worst i have ever seen, the inventory system was dumb and i never had to buy anything.

NWN2 i though was very good, the only downside was the small maps. I cant really compair it to NWN1 because i only really played NWN1 it online.

Dungeon Siege 1 was fun, but a struggle towards the end, i could get more that an hour or two into the 2nd game.
 
OCDStevo said:
I think BG 1 is one of the few games I've actually ever completed, great game....

Think i'll get it from GoG as well as Planetscape Torment, which I've never played but people rate as one of the best games. :)
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PST is up there with BG2 as far as plot is concerned. I need to go back and do it again as the PC I had at the time really struggled with it and kept crashing on the end sequence.
 
spengos said:
In light of this I decided last night to purchase the first game on GOG and I will start playing it tonight and over the weekend. It’s a shame that BG2 isn’t on GOG as well, but hopefully by the time I finish (or had enough) the first game the sequel might be available. I also picked up the Icewind Dale pack as the artwork and graphics look quite nice. I’m a bit put off by the apparent focus on grouping as I prefer solo RPGs ideally, but I’ll give it a go.
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As previously mentioned, if you are running Widescreen, get the Widescreen mod, and the Widescreen GUI mod if you want it to display correctly in widescreen. But for the Widescreen GUI mod to work you can only run at a max res of 1280x800. Still looks great at that res though IMO.

If you have any issues, check out the Baldurs Gate forum on GoG, most issues have fixes. I had problem with the 'fog of war' being a little corrupted but the fix was as easy as changing a setting in graphics options.

I've been playing games for a long time, but missed BG when it came out. So far I'm really enjoying it, so I wouldn't say it's nostalgia at all. I spend more time playing 'retro' games that modern ones...
 
FO3 was a good game for wandering around a well-realised destroyed city landscape. However... the dialogue fluctuated between bad and awful, and I wasn't a fan of the combat or other game systems either.

So I pretty much just played it to explore it. The ending (without DLC) was super awful too.
 
FooAtari said:
As previously mentioned, if you are running Widescreen, get the Widescreen mod, and the Widescreen GUI mod if you want it to display correctly in widescreen. But for the Widescreen GUI mod to work you can only run at a max res of 1280x800. Still looks great at that res though IMO.

If you have any issues, check out the Baldurs Gate forum on GoG, most issues have fixes. I had problem with the 'fog of war' being a little corrupted but the fix was as easy as changing a setting in graphics options.

I've been playing games for a long time, but missed BG when it came out. So far I'm really enjoying it, so I wouldn't say it's nostalgia at all. I spend more time playing 'retro' games that modern ones...
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I've tried to install the widescreen mod but it just corrupts my game files and I just crash out of the game and get a "can't find file xxx error". I've reinstalled a few times and it does it everytime, so I gave up.
 
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