There's a price on your nuts??
The thought of the op for a vasectomy is pretty horrific... Yuck. To go through it, I'd need more of an incentive than a few hundred quid!
US Charity aims to neuter UK junkies
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The thought of the op for a vasectomy is pretty horrific... Yuck. To go through it, I'd need more of an incentive than a few hundred quid!
There's a price on your nuts??
you still have them and they still work and you can have it undone.
Have a read of the last paragraph of the OP and you will see his comment was somewhat tounge in cheek. Unless of course you agree with stockhausen that Sky subscribers and some tabloid readers need sterilising? If so then my, aren't you adorable?
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Probably spent it on another fix.
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so how can you take someone who is fragile of mind and make them sign a contract that says for £200 we will neuter you?
the person might have been off their head and just needed the cash. if they arent fit to have babies are they sound of mind and fit enough to make that decision?
if not then is it ethical and if not, should they be able to sue?
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Again, that would lower crime.
Yep. In a similar vein I was quite interested in the Freakonomics hypothesis on abortion clinics and crime levels. Could this have the same effect, I wonder?
Methinks it'd be difficult to convince the masses that it's a good idea to make this compulsory. I suppose you could offer an incentive to prisoners to have it done under their own free will (extra weekly allowance or something?).
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God dont add to it m8! The Tory blue runs really deep on this board and they will pass it onto the prime minister lol.
Still can't see any real issues with it. The fact of the matter is that if you're ever at a point in your life when you need £200 so badly that you're willing to get sterilised to lay your hands on it, you've clearly made a lot of really, really bad decisions to get there. It may well be a step towards modern eugenics or an extreme violation of liberty, but I don't remember reading anywhere that we have a Human Right to bear children, and getting to such a desperate stage in your life should rightly lose you the privilege of having kids. I'm normally one to campaign quite strongly for people to **** up their lives in whatever way they deem most enjoyable, but I draw the line at doing the same to another person's life - especially bringing kids into such a situation. While the very fact that we've reached this stage in society is a travesty and a major source of embarassment to our race, continuing as we are is too wildly damaging to our development as a species to allow the situation to continue.
Of course, I don't expect many people to agree exactly with my way of thinking. I'm a liberal mysanthropist. It's not a common viewpoint.
Of course, I don't expect many people to agree exactly with my way of thinking. I'm a liberal mysanthropist. It's not a common viewpoint.
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I agreed up to the point where you suggested it should be forced.
I must have come across badly, in that case - I certainly don't think it should be enforced. That's a step beyond the scheme, and I consider it a violation of liberty too extreme to be weighed against any potential benefit. It should be a choice, but the choice should be there. Society is falling arse over tit, to be sure, but there are too many other options to resort to such an extreme policy yet.
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This sounds like a great idea!
I'm in the know of a relative of my step mum who's 20 or 21, a drug addict and has had 3 children (by three different fathers).
It makes sense to sterilise her, pay her the £200 and hope she OD's on it when she's paid world would be a better place without her and people like her...
I'm in the know of a relative of my step mum who's 20 or 21, a drug addict and has had 3 children (by three different fathers).
It makes sense to sterilise her, pay her the £200 and hope she OD's on it when she's paid
world would be a better place without her and people like her...
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Whilst it seems a bit shocking (and I bet that's the reaction they were after when I heard it on the radio) and has the potential to be a slippery slope, I haven't got a problem with it.
It's entirely their choice. Surely choice is what stockhausen's liberal lefties want anyway? Speaking of which.... Why does the social 'protection' system reward people for breeding offspring currently? That too is their choice.
Heck it's like the students getting all upitiy about the possibility of higher university fees. It's your choice whether to go to university or not.
ARGH. Why do we let people make decisions for themselves anyways?
[Joke]
It's entirely their choice. Surely choice is what stockhausen's liberal lefties want anyway? Speaking of which.... Why does the social 'protection' system reward people for breeding offspring currently? That too is their choice.
Heck it's like the students getting all upitiy about the possibility of higher university fees. It's your choice whether to go to university or not.
ARGH. Why do we let people make decisions for themselves anyways?
[Joke]Once again Dolph is right on the mark