Ah, thanks for explaining, I just hope it'll not end up with "Prove it's your child or I ain't selling you any alcohol".
Sainsbury's wouldn't sell me a beer...
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Ah, thanks for explaining, I just hope it'll not end up with "Prove it's your child or I ain't selling you any alcohol".
I do agree, it's gone way too far. One of the main points of the licencing law is "to protect children from the sale and/or abuse of alcohol", so I'd assume this is to protect this statement even further.
It's bloody annoying for me, they bought in the Challenge 21 law when I turned 18 and upped it to 25 last year when I turned 21, I'm going to be ID'd forever!
Valid point also, but I do ask when in doubt. It covers my back that way, however silly it may seem at the time. There are some people you would never ask that are in the bracket of 18-25 because of their appearance, but it's all about instilling a little common sense. My point was I'm not breaking any laws by not asking for ID, as I've (metaphorically) sold to a person of legal age to purchase alcohol, yet I can now be prosucted for technically not breaking the law. That's what annoys me. Sadly, a lot of shops are very scared now and will ask anyone remotely young looking.
I feel a little for the guy just posted above about the paracetamol - generally distinguishing between 16 and 21/25 is a tad easier than 18 and 21/25.
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I've never been IDed when I've had booze delivered but I get IDed all the time in store, even if I'm only buying caffeine pills.Wrong.
They are meant to check when the deliver it (well, Tesco, Sainsburys etc. all the supermarket deliveries are meant to ask), I have been IDed at my front door before.
no they can't
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/8435407.Proxy_sales_of_alcohol_on_the_up/
by the police's own admission, theres nothing they can do about it.
It is you the individual who commits a crime by buying alcohol for a minor, not the shop for selling it to you.
You can be fined up to £5000 and receive an entry on your criminal record. But its not the shop who gets fined.
They are just abusing their power.
exactly
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I've never had a problem with doing it really and I didn't realise you got IDed for paracetamol these days, not worked on the tills in ~4 years.
I randomly get IDed. For example today I was in Lidl and got IDed, I then went to Sainsburys and didn't get IDed. Both times I was buying alcohol before some smart-arse says something. I think one of the reasons I was asked in Lidl is because I was there at the same time as loads of school kids as it was around chuck out time. Mind you quite why a school kid would want almond liqueur I don't know.
I'm 23 so I'm still within the challenge 25, but in both the above cases for me the people on the tills were using common sense. At Lidl the guy seemed ok with me buying it then realised he should probably check (kids in the queue after me). At Sainsburys the guy realised I must be the right age and so allowed the sale without any questions.
I went straight to the local chemist and bought it without getting IDed, the guy just asked what I needed it for.
To be fair, anyone caught selling booze to a minor could receive a hefty fine and would almost certainly lose their job. But it takes the **** when some kid who looks about 14 asks you for ID.
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I experienced this a couple of Saturday evening's ago. Basically, my girlfriend and I were standing at this bar waiting to be served. We were stood there for ages (it was quite busy) and had yet to be served, when all of a sudden my girlfriend's mum walks up to the bar and has a go at the only bartender there at the time for not serving us and for seemingly serving others who hadn't been waiting for as long.
Anyway, the girlfriend's mum goes back to her seat around the corner and we get served. The bartender asks me for ID in the most condescending way you could possibly imagine. I duly showed him my ID and he got us our drinks. I hope I shattered every ounce of power he felt from asking for my ID when I proved my age.
Why, are you 16?
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Company policy is they don't want to contribute towards the vast swathes of morons buying drink for under 18's. They feel the best way to enforce this is to simply refuse the sale to anyone who they reasonably suspect may be doing this.
It really is that simple. I used to get this all the time working in games retail - you wouldnt beleive the amount of 18-21 year olds trying to buy stuff like GTA for a 15 year old brother. The whole age thing is a nightmare for the people working there, it really is. It's not that people who are 24 look 18, its that people who are 17 can often look much older, meaning you've no real idea how old anyone is.
If you want to buy alcohol or 18 rated stuff, buy it when you are not with a child.
If you dont like this, buy from a store with a different policy.
It really is that simple and none of the ranting and moaning about how nanny state it is will change it.
It really is that simple. I used to get this all the time working in games retail - you wouldnt beleive the amount of 18-21 year olds trying to buy stuff like GTA for a 15 year old brother. The whole age thing is a nightmare for the people working there, it really is. It's not that people who are 24 look 18, its that people who are 17 can often look much older, meaning you've no real idea how old anyone is.
If you want to buy alcohol or 18 rated stuff, buy it when you are not with a child.
If you dont like this, buy from a store with a different policy.
It really is that simple and none of the ranting and moaning about how nanny state it is will change it.
Dinner party?
I bought some booze from my local petrol station and when I handed the guy my ID he stared at it for a couple of minutes, then stared at me, obviously not sure that it was mine (probably thought I'd borrowed it from an older brother). How can I look younger now than I did 3 years ago?
It's company policy.
It is a criminal offence to:
Buy an age restricted product or alcohol if you are under 18
Buy an age restricted product or alcohol on behalf of somebody under the age of 18
SELL an age restricted product or alcohol to somebody under the age of 18
BUT... not to sell to somebody buying it for somebody under 18. Therefore it's company policy.
They are quite entitled to have such a policy if they wish. And as we live in a free market economy, you are quite entitled to buy elsewhere.
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Fair enough, I still think it is a bit different when I'm there with my brother who is 7 years younger than I am (clearly not just two chav mates one 18 and one 17 etc).
I genuinly didn't know the rule, and I do think it is stupid simply for the fact that it fails what I like to think of as the "easy get-around clause."
All I did was walk out, back in again, and buy beer from a different till. If I actually was trying to break the law their pain in the arse policies in no way prevented it.
A mate of mine was recently refused a bottle of Jack Daniels BBQ sauce in our local Asda, since his missus (26) was with him and didn't have any ID on her.
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Dinner party?
I want to see how bad it is compared to Dissarono...it'll be used for getting people drunk either way.
I was asked how old I was by the guy in Lidl after he'd handed back my driver's license...I said my age but I always have to think about it as I honestly do forget. Doesn't help in my photo I have long hair and I haven't had hair like it since I was 16.
I need to replace it really.
A mate of mine was recently refused a bottle of Jack Daniels BBQ sauce in our local Asda, since his missus (26) was with him and didn't have any ID on her.
Ahahahaha...try getting drunk off that! Urgh!