Brit cop punch man 5 times in the face.

And what you seem to be glossing over, is that a baton is much more likely to seriously injure someone than a taser (not to mention it requires room to use it properly, something I doubt there is much of when you've got 2+ people trying to restrain a third).

Every method of restraint the police have has it's advantages and disadvantages, hence why they have different ones.
As Burnsy says some people can laugh off sprays, whilst the taser affects the muscles directly (so it doesn't matter so much if they are on drugs), but the taser risks problems if someone has a dodgy ticker..
The baton is useful, but potentially extremely dangerous, much more so than a taser (which delivers a measures current), and requires a degree of room to use.
Sprays are useful but don't in themselves have any stopping power if the person is hyped up enough/able to swing, and unsuitable in cramped conditions.
Even the handcuffs can I believe cause injuries ranging from the mild, to the severe depending on how they are used, and how much the person wearing them struggles.
 
Werewolf said:
And what you seem to be glossing over, ist that a baton is much more likely to seriously injur someone than a taser (not to mention it requires room to use it properly, something I doubt there is much of when you've got 2+ people trying to restrain a third).
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If you're beating someone around the head with one, yes a baton is dangerous. But they outlawed that long ago (at least here in Northern Ireland). Now it's all leg strikes. I've been on the receiving end of those and aside from a bruise and dead leg for a while, there's no danger.

As for room to swing a baton, that's where C&R comes in. Even the biggest burliest suspect complies when they're being restrained properly. Tasers just seem like a lazy option and to reduce costs.
 
Werewolf said:
And what you seem to be glossing over, is that a baton is much more likely to seriously injure someone than a taser .
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How so? They can't hit you in the head with one (or let me rephrase - shouldn't) and so whilst they might be painful aren't going to break bones.

Tasers however have countless recorded incidents of them triggering heart attacks, fits, seizures and damaging the nervous system.

Personally I'd be very fearful of getting tasered because of such incidents.
 
wow just re watched it

itds pretty undefendable

they have him down, he isnt going anywhere at all.

between 3-7 seconds the guy has 1 arm outstretched on the ground it isnt even moving,
cuff on? game over there right?


No.....no no no.... the other police guy lifts him from the ground. then proceeds to KNEEL on his head forcing him into a VERY uncomfortable position. THEN they start to taser him and the guy reacts.

thery didnt even NEED to taser him. its only when he is tasered that he actually moves. that is assault right there.
 
Soviet said:
Good for you. There are lots others that will fight tooth and nail not to be arrested. :)
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I have. And never needed a tasering. Batons and spray was more than enough. Maybe the Northern Ireland police service is just a lot more professional than the mainland. Despite being the only armed force in the UK they rarely pull their sidearms, even during the most violent of confrontations and civil unrest.
 
Brian8bit said:
I have. And never needed a tasering. Batons and spray was more than enough. Maybe the Northern Ireland police service is just a lot more professional than the mainland. Despite being the only armed force in the UK they rarely pull their sidearms, even during the most violent of confrontations and civil unrest.
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Again, you're speaking from your own personal experience. What do you do when someone is immune to CS? And the bulky clothing is a valid argument as the normal striking zones are arms and legs, you start wearing thick (leather for example) clothing and the strikes are less effective.

NI police are indeed issued sidearms but like the UK police we rarely need to be armed with lethal methods. Plus the fact NI police know that if they shoot someone there it could provoke unrest...
 
In my personal experience, someone who is immune to CS isn't going to be swayed by a taser.

And again, personal experience, thick clothing argument is ********. It's been tried, personally. You get cracked with a baton, you're going to feel it unless you're wearing the same gear as the riot squad.

My point about the police being armed here, with both 9mm and tasers, they're rarely used. They're under a much bigger threat than police on the mainland, and yet they rarely pull either. Whereas on the mainland it seems to be if anyone puts up so much of a struggle, they're hit with a taser. Lazy policing.
 
RDM said:
Surely it needs to be investigated, if it is considered assault then he needs to get charged and if he is found guilty then he should lose his job? If you go straight to "lose job" then effectively you are treating police officers unfairly?
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If I hit a chat like that i would be charged with assault, id loose my job and have to change career.

Police are put into a position of trust in the UK and I am all for giving people what they deserve but he should not have hit him in that situation.

IF the chap was fighting hard then ok I can understand but that cop is a complete idiot in my eyes. reminds me of some bullies i know.
 
Brian8bit said:
Demos. Riots. I could elaborate, but I feel I'll get the usual OCUK responce of "hurp durp internet tough guy, don't forget your keyboard" etcetera.
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To be honest it's pretty difficult to argue how the nasty the police are based on personal experience of being involved in a riot. If people didnt get involved in riots etc we wouldnt have the problem in the first place..
 
It happens. I once told a custody sergeant that he had no right to tell the kid at the counter to stand up straight, hands out pockets etc etc (stupid i know).. well he didnt like me putting my foot in so he decided to walk around the counter and strangle me against the wall. I had no option (hard to breathe) to elbow him in the face. This resulted in 10 officers jumping me restraining me even though i wasnt struggling and then proceeding to bash my head off the door frames on the way to the cell. I spoke to the doctor and solicitor and they said its a case of my word against all theirs, as i was young i didnt pursue it any further. I know not all of the police force is like this but they arent all saints thats for sure!
 
A worrying amount of people on this forum have been CS'ed and Tasered, I didn't know there were so many thugs among us!
 
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