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In what way have Nvidia come a long way since the release of Fermi?
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NVIDIA to Counter Radeon HD 6970 ''Cayman'' with GeForce GTX 580
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In what way have Nvidia come a long way since the release of Fermi?
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They're still in business.
LOL, like it. And let's be fair, I don't think even they expected to last this long
They're still in business.
Lol. Just going to wait for the "facts" about how they are still in business and lol some more.
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They're still in business.
Technically I believe in all but that quarter last year with the big "bump gate" pay off's they've made a profit until this last quarter. So at Fermi's release they were actually making a pretty significantly higher profit, and much higher revenue than at this stage of Fermi's life cycle, so they've gone backwards.
I really would like to know why people think the GF104 is such a massive change. Its now slower, noticeably, than a 250mm2 core, while its 368mm2(dang it, I saw the actual number the other day but can't remember it, its 360-380mm2 I think, 368mm2 sounds familiar though).
While previously their 530mm2 core was 15-20% faster than a 336mm2 core. They aren't far off par from each other frankly.
Its very hard to judge exactly how much faster the 480gtx is to be honest.
But the GF104 is just over 30% smaller, it uses around 40% less power, so a slight improvement, but lower default clocks also help.
But realistically, most of the time, its quite a heck of a lot more than 30% slower.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/7
First review I found, Crysis ranges from about 30 to almost 50% slower. Battle forge is 45-50% slower in general.
IS GF104 really a step forward? 30% smaller, 40% less power, 45% slower in many cases?
Nvidia has pulled every trick in the book now, they actually put details on the 580 on the website then pulled it down later on.
So its official and they know it won't be ready for the time the 6900 series is released but because of that stunt its all over the web and people are going to read it and know its coming soon, that means people are going to stall on buying a 6900 card to see what Nvidia produces which is what Nvidia wanted.
On top of that Zotac are trying to create a GTX460X2 which should be interesting.
claimed it was an "accident" I say bs, theres no accidents in marketing.
MOD EDIT: that site is banned on here for a good reason please do not use it. NathWraith
So its official and they know it won't be ready for the time the 6900 series is released but because of that stunt its all over the web and people are going to read it and know its coming soon, that means people are going to stall on buying a 6900 card to see what Nvidia produces which is what Nvidia wanted.
On top of that Zotac are trying to create a GTX460X2 which should be interesting.
claimed it was an "accident" I say bs, theres no accidents in marketing.
MOD EDIT: that site is banned on here for a good reason please do not use it. NathWraith
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Why is the 5970 a fail may I ask, I thought (not having owned one) after hearing rave reviews it was a really good card?
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It is just some people don't like dual cards. There is nothing on the market atm that can come close to a 5970 performance wise.
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There's plenty of reviews out there that tell the story of the HD5970 and there's not another card that comes close to it in terms of raw performance but I think you can make your own judgements.
I really like the fact that when AMD tweak, alter, change and mess with their previous generation setup and rename them to the next generation (as all companies do, i mean it is why its the next generation after all), its all fine and dandy. but when theres a rumor and lets get that clear Nvidia haven't actually officially announced anything, so its just a rumor that Nvidia are going to tweak, alter , change, and mess with their previous generation and rename it to the next generation, that it is laughable.
bottom line is none of us knows what is going to happen, AMD caymen based cards might flop for all we know, i cant see that happening but we just don't know until they arrive. the same goes for Nvidia when they release the GTX580 we will then find out just how fast it is.
bottom line is none of us knows what is going to happen, AMD caymen based cards might flop for all we know, i cant see that happening but we just don't know until they arrive. the same goes for Nvidia when they release the GTX580 we will then find out just how fast it is.
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Very bold claim. Just like when Nvidia released the GTX 480 that beat the 5970, oh wait.
Whilst this would make sense, just look at ATI/AMD, you wouldn't of thought a 6870 was slower than a GTX 480 2 months ago would you?
I would say guesses? But raven I do hope you're right. Nvidia do need to smash down the walls with their next high end flagship release.
Yeah that is two cores SLI/Xfire ect, obviously Nvidia are not fussed about a dual GPU because they could have had one out utilizing 460 cores. Single GPU domination is where it's at IMO
Well that's AMD's dodgy naming scheme for you.
Agreed, I own a 480 and I can admit at stock it does not do enough over a 5870 to warrant the extra heat, power ect. Hopefully their new flagship GPU will address some of these matters.
you think they didn't gave a fuss about 5970 of course they did , the other matter is that they couldn't make dual care because power required would be insane and cooling solution would be (on air) impossible, and it would be very not cost effective and make huge loss.
And you think a 5970 makes AMD any substantial amount of revenue? of course not they are priced way too high, sales are tiny at that end of the market. As said a 460x2 is easily possible, 460 runs cool and has the same power consumption as a 5850.