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Stick with my 5770 or buy an MSI GTX460 cyclone?

Nbolo

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Hey guys,

So i'm currently running on a single XFX 5770 (OC'd to 940/1350) and am considering an upgrade.

I've looked aorund and found the 460 cyclone, seems like a good deal and from bench marks i've seen it's VERY overclockable (some sites even claim it'll almost catch a 5870?!?). Problem is i don't really know how each will perform in the games i play and if the extra money would be worth it.

At the moment i'm playing: Fallout New Vegas, Civ 5, X3: terran conflict and am planning to boot up metro 2033 in the near future.

Rest of my system:

i7 950
ASUS P6X58D-E MOTHERBOARD
4 GIG DDR3 1333Mhz
WD caviar green 1TB (64MB cache)

Has anyone had experience with these 2 cards on any of these games or similar?

Any help very much appreciated, thanks!
 
What res will u play Metro 2033?
GTX460 after clocking to 800-850 MHz on GPU is kick ass card.I don't think so that u can paly Metro on you AMD card in res higher than 1280x1024
 
Blackwhite said:
What res will u play Metro 2033?
GTX460 after clocking to 800-850 MHz on GPU is kick ass card.I don't think so that u can paly Metro on you AMD card in res higher than 1280x1024
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Forgot to mention my res, oops i usualy play at 1680x1050 (best res my monitor can handle).

I'm not to worried about setting graphics to high in metro, from what i've seen it's still pretty on medium.

And yeah i would be overclocking the 460 quite heavily (it's a crime not to, afterall the card was built for it!), really wanna know if the difference in performance is enough to justify the extra £90 the 460 will cost me (after i sell the 5770 that is).
 
BigbruiserAl said:
Would make sense if you already have a 5770 to buy another, both my 5770 hit 1000 core and a bargin now for the £100 mark.
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I did have a 5770 Xfire setup but it caused me so much hassle, heat and noise, microstutter, tearing (my case is to small to really handle an Xfire setup and anyway i'd like to use my PCI slots) so really i'm looking for a 1 card solution.

Avathar77 said:
If you look around a Giga GTX460 1GB can be found for less than £124! It pains me to see that as I bought this for £160.
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I have seen these! does anyone happen to know if the cooling system on the cyclone is worth the cash?
 
BigBruiserAl said:
Bench
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Thank you! that's a great help, quite a difference in performance and that's at stock speeds, i imagine given the difference in overclocking potential the 460 would pull even further ahead?

Only question now then is whether it's worth splashing the extra cash on cooling?

P.S. that website is fantastic! i think you may have just skuppered my planned work load for today!
 
Avathar77 said:
If you look around a Giga GTX460 1GB can be found for less than £124! It pains me to see that as I bought this for £160.
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I'm looking cheapest i've found so far is £139, would love to know where you found a 1GB for less than £124! will keep looking though, thanks.

BigbruiserAl said:
Np glad to help, if buying a 460 i really would go for something with good cooling so you go 800+ on the core

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 OC 1024MB?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-064-GI
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The gigbyte does look pretty good! Frankly i'm amazed at the performance bench marks are showing from these little cards! they're exchanging blows with cards costing almost £140 more!
 
Nbolo said:
Nooooooo! curse my luck!

Ooo well, cheers guys, guess i'll poke around and see which i cna get cheaper, gigabyte or msi.
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I refuse buy MSI after there last round of their BS, marketing is one thing but the 1000 core rubbish was absolute junk, with Military class Components yet one of our very forum members booted up a new card for to catch fire? um no thanks for MSI
I will leave the msi banter for bhavv and msi guru :P
 
I would be careful about those sites showing such cheap prices for hardware especially if you found them on Google shopping. Often when you click on the link the price suddenly jumps to something else or the site is selling as a third party from a dealer in Hong Kong or the price is exclusive of VAT. Shop around by all means to find the best deal but stick to legit sites like OCUK et el as they have the buying power to get the cheapest prices anyway and you know where the product is coming from.

The GTX460 1Gb is fair upgrade but you can also get the HD6850 from £140 from legit sites which performs just as well. Also don't be fooled by the GTX460 768mb it's not the GTX460 1gb but with less ram it also has slower clocks and less ROPs. If you're serious about wanting to play crappy games like Metro 2033 at decent settings I would get the game first and see how your current hardware stacks up THEN look at upgrading because to be frank the other games you play should fly on your hardware at the res you play.
 
Hi Freddie, thanks for the tips, i've been steering clear of the 768Mbs anyway, the small saving isn't worth the loss in performance.

Metro crappy? from what i've played it seems pretty awesome! if somewhat linear which is a pity, but that's just me =)

Do you happen to know if it's possible to unlock voltage on XFX 5770's? i think it's got more juice in it, if i could just alter the voltage!
 
BigBruiserAl said:
Flash with a Asus v1 5770 bios
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No need to flash anymore. MSI's afterburner unlocks the upper limits on all HD 5000 cards that support voltage tweak without requiring a bios flash.

Some people might be unlucky enough to have a non reference 5770 which doesnt have the voltage tweak chip at all, and flashing those to a reference card bios may end up bricking the card.

If MSI afterburner doesnt work on your HD 5000 card, DONT bios flash it.
 
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