Do you believe in Life after Death.

[e36Adz]

Only God will judge his creations, however, the prophets will try help them, and defend them so they do not go hell.

I think the hadith that you are referring to here, speaks of how even the prophets (may peace be upon them) will be worried about their own judgement and will not be able to help people, and will advise them to go to someone else, and finally they will arrive at Muhammed pbuh. It's definately worth quoting the hadith just so no confusion slips in.

 

[Deadbeat]

I think the noose that you've run yourself into, fox, is that you're portraying yourself as exactly what you despise about people with these beliefs - thousands of years ago, people took stock of the world and how it works, came up with a notion of its origins and ultimate end that fit their observations, and said "this is how things must be, the evidence is all around us, how could it possibly not be true?". Now, with the developments in culture & society exposing other, more rational and explainable circumstances surrounding the universe and its progression, these beliefs seem like the ramblings of uneducated, fearful collectives trying to make sense of a universe too impossibly huge for them to begin to comprehend (no offence), and with your enlightened knowledge of the universe you stand there and proclaim "this is how things really are, the evidence is all around us, how could it possibly not be true?". How you can't see the ignorance in your own words completely escapes me.

 

[Glaucus]

Yes its hard for you to grasp but like Christianity,

It's not that, I thought he had a Christian perspective.

does the quaran actually have 7 levels of hell, or is it like the bible and miss quoted/translated ect.

 

[Lysander]

It's not that, I thought he had a Christian perspective.

does the quaran actually have 7 levels of hell, or is it like the bible and miss quoted/translated ect.

As far as I'm aware, the only text that mentions "levels" of Hell is the Divine Comedy. And it's nine, not seven.

 

[[TW]Fox]

So I'm the one saying 'really? how can that be true' when other people are telling me that everyone who has ever died is going to come back to life yet I'm the ignorant one

If I posted a new thread explaining how I was abducted by aliens you'd all call me loopy. Surely this everyone is coming back to life all the time thing is even more far fetched?

I've NOT said I beleive XYZ to be true, I've said how can ABC possibly be true? It's against all manner of logic and common sense surely? I mean everyone who has ever died is going to come back to life?

Are all the animals coming back to life as well or is it just humans? What makes our particular type of living organism so special if thats the case?

 

[e36Adz]

Why hasnt it happened yet? It's been thousands of years since Jesus was around?

Being entirely serious here, pretty much all the signs that we have been warned of in Islam, to recognise 'the last age' are happening now or have happened. However, like I said earlier, if you see only with external vision, you will not be able to grasp the reality of the world we live in.

It makes no difference if you shout all day long you are muslim or christian, and you worship God with your lips (ie. in speech), if you do not have faith in the heart and in reality you worship the material world, you will be deceived in the last age.

 

[Glaucus]

Are all the animals coming back to life as well or is it just humans? What makes our particular type of living organism so special if thats the case?

if you start with the standpoint(what ever you believe), that a deity exists, then anything is possible. But then if they are Christian then you can argue that where does it say x,y,z in the bible, or why do you take that translation of that passage.

if that makes sense.

 

[jp_bl_68]

What about the accumulated memories and energy that create that personality, is is destroyed when you die, or does it like any other form of energy change into another form.

No idea. But I see no reason to believe our consciousness can exist without a healthy brain.

 

[beachBOYken]

ive always believed that when you die you come back again as a new life

 

[Cr0fty]

Fox try opening your mind a little. I don't think you actually want to understand this topic... As it really isn't hard and yet you seem to be making such a fuss. Perhaps you are just devoid of soul

To answer the OP, I have no religion but I believe in something after death. When tripping recently I came to the conclusion "energies" on the topic of reincarnation/rebirth. I can say no more than that as I don't know. I'm happy though.

 

[Lysander]

If I posted a new thread explaining how I was abducted by aliens you'd all call me loopy. Surely this everyone is coming back to life all the time thing is even more far fetched?

But neither are far-fetched at all. By your logic getting abducted by aliens is far more likely since the logical possibility of intelligent alien life existing somewhere in the universe is very high indeed. If they do exist they could possibly detect other life, visit and take specimens.

 

[e36Adz]

It's not that, I thought he had a Christian perspective.

does the quaran actually have 7 levels of hell, or is it like the bible and miss quoted/translated ect.

The Quran does mention 7, but again whole books have been written on this topic. There is definately some significance to the number 7 though, as muslims are also commanded to circumambulate the Kaaba in Mecca 7 times.

 

[[TW]Fox]

This just blows all my logic fuses. It makes less sense than any of the conspiracy theories everyone here flames people for posting on a weekly basis.

People rightly think the idea that America staged 9/11 is completely bonkers, yet its totally possible everyone who dies comes back to life again and gets judged?

Eh?

 

[Cr0fty]

This just blows all my logic fuses. It makes less sense than any of the conspiracy theories everyone here flames people for posting on a weekly basis.

People rightly think the idea that America staged 9/11 is completely bonkers, yet its totally possible everyone who dies comes back to life again and gets judged?

Who said that logic is what's needed?

If it was logical we would be able to determine a definite answer...

 

[beachBOYken]

actually when i mean i believe there is life after death i think you dont necessarily come back as a human but could be and insect like an ant or bird?

 

[[TW]Fox]

Is it too much to suggest that life is just that - a life. You are born, you have a great life, then its all over. I think the rest of it was just written by somebody very wise a long time ago who realised that most people cannot cope with the idea that once they die, thats that, and cannot cope with the idea that in reality the life they lead has no real purpose - they just exist - and so wrote a series of tales and stories which helped give peoples life meaning and kept people happy rather than worrying about what is in all probability simply non-existence once you die.

We like to think we are special but in reality we are simply just a bit brighter than donkeys and squirrels, but the fundamentals remain the same.

 

[Glaucus]

The Quran does mention 7, but again whole books have been written on this topic. There is definately some significance to the number 7 though, as muslims are also commanded to circumambulate the Kaaba in Mecca 7 times.

But 7 levels of hell?. Just because 7 is important in one aspect, does not mean it is important in everything.
#As you can tell I know nothing of the Quran, but in Christianity people believe a lot of stuff which is just not in the bible, but think it is. Or think it is the only translation or understanding it could mean.

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

I believe in manifestation as another person (or animal) after life, and I also believe that I was someone/something else before this life, and it repeats. There is no memory of previous/after lives though. If there was no life before/after life, it would be boring. Okay, without being alive, I guess there is nothing to feel, but it does still sound boring. Perhaps it's dreams, like as if you're sleeping, but never-ending?

 

[Feek]

Your body dies, yes. Your soul continues to exist.

You carry on believing what you want (and I'm sure you will), I don't see how a series of electrical impulses can be called a 'soul' and continue to exist after those impulses have stopped.

Any 'afterlife' or being reborn as something else is a load of religious claptrap.

 

[Cr0fty]

Is it too much to suggest that life is just that - a life. You are born, you have a great life, then its all over. I think the rest of it was just written by somebody very wise a long time ago who realised that most people cannot cope with the idea that once they die, thats that, and cannot cope with the idea that in reality the life they lead has no real purpose - they just exist - and so wrote a series of tales and stories which helped give peoples life meaning and kept people happy rather than worrying about what is in all probability simply non-existence once you die.

You're missing the point.

This thread is highlighting the views of those who have no religious belief, but still believe in some form of continued existance. Could you please explain how that comes from a scripture that a 2000 year old scholar has written?

But I can agree with you to some extent. Life may well just be life as it is. I'll let you know when I get to the threshold