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Palit GTX 460 Sonic - 99C o.O?

smoory

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Hey guys,

Does anyone else have a pair of these SLI'd? I'm running a pair in a NZXT hush case, and it seems that the top card stabilizes at around 98-99 deg centigrade under dual-gpu furmark load! Is this safe? o.O

The only thing I can think of trying is to pop the in-between back panel off so the top card can suck in some fresh air. Maybe the case doesn't have a high enough airflow, however temps ran into the mid 90s even with the side panel off.

The bottom card reaches late 80s when it stabilises.

Normally this isn't a big issue though, they don't tend to reach maximum temp when gaming... Might be nice to get em cooler though to keep it quieter.

Steve.
 
Yeah looks like your case has no side panel fans and the front fans look to be restricted by HD bays. Forget furmark, temps in demanding games are what counts, if you're doing 90c or less gaming then it's OK, a better case will help with cooling though.


The palit 460 is not renowned for having the best cooler either.
 
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I'll monitor it with metro 2033 tonight then I reckon. So far, only Crysis tends to get the fans spinning to an audible level. On reflection, perhaps the hush wasn't a good choice for an SLI setup... Even if it is freaking quiet ><
 
RavenXXX2 said:
The palit 460 is not renowned for having the best cooler either.
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You said it :(

My gainwards (same thing basically) are in an aluminuim Akasa Omega, which is fully kitted out with 6 120mm fans, including 2 on the side blowing straight at the cards, which also have 2 pci slots of space between them.

Furmark hits 85c :eek: Steer clear of the Gainward/Palit 460s, they're cheaply built!
 
@ Op
You would have been allot better off with the Gigabyte cards I'm afraid to say.
I heard the Palit's are missing VRM heat-sinks in the retail versions, even though they were in the review samples.

Personally I wouldn't want to be running a GPU above >95 deg.

Maybe you can fit a strategically place fan to get some air in the top card, as it seems the air flow is being restricted from being able to get to the top card rather than the ambient temps in the case being too high...
 
Argh! Nuts.

Yep, you guys are probably right.. Bit late now though. I'll see what I can do with fudging the airflow a bit better. Paper air tubes anyone? :D

Will post an update if I find some magical solution.

@MH79, lol, maybe I'll get a brewing system set up this weekend.

Thanks,
Steve.
 
Just wanted to add, I have that case, and although I don't have a 460 GTX, I do have a 8800 GTX and that card gets ridiculously hot too - as did the other cards before it. Therefore, what I am trying to say is, the case is just not very good for air flow. I have my side panel off as well - makes little difference.:(
 
Unfortunately, I know how you feel.

I am in the process of wanting to upgrade to a Q6600 and a 460 GTX myself, and as much as I would rather avoid the cost and hassle of a new case, it seems more and more likely the eventual outcome.
 
By the way what motherboard/platform are you using? If it is a x58 platform and the motherboard has a PCI-E 2.0 x16 (x8 lane) slot, may be it is possible for your to install the lower card to the lower PCI-E 2.0 x16 (x8 lane) and SLI at x8/x8 instead of x16/x16; with the widen gap, it will increase the airflow to the top card hugely.
 
The Palit GTX 460 has been strongly disadvised on just about every major hardware forum. The cooler is pants, as well as a lot of the boards having lots of other problems.

SLI'ing two of the standard Palit GTX 460s is even worse, if you want an SLI / Crossfire setup, you need cards with good cooling and airflow (front + side case fans are very important).

The Gigabyte / MSI / Asus versions of the GTX 460 have been the most recommendable ones to buy since the cards first launched. You shouldnt buy a gimped version when there are better ones available for the same price. The graphics card manufacturers would eventually learn that they cant release shoddy cards if they lose sales as a result of doing so.

The GTX 460 reference design was actually superior to several of the ones that were released such as the Palit and one of the Zotacs with a rubbish blower cooler.
 
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bhavv said:
The Palit GTX 460 has been strongly disadvised on just about every major hardware forum. The cooler is pants, as well as a lot of the boards having lots of other problems.

SLI'ing two of the standard Palit GTX 460s is even worse, if you want an SLI / Crossfire setup, you need cards with good cooling and airflow (front + side case fans are very important).

The Gigabyte / MSI / Asus versions of the GTX 460 have been the most recommendable ones to buy since the cards first launched.
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While that is mostly true, and I agree with everything you say 100%, the design of the case is very hard to get around with simply 'upgrading' the front and rear fans - I have done this myself. The hard drive bay, as already mentioned, blocks a lot of air flow, then you have all the noise dampening foam throughout the case, which also causes heat issues. The only way to improve this would be to either remove the hard drive bay (a lot of work) and rip out all the noise dampening foam (again a lot of work). Personally speaking, I would rather avoid doing myself, as it's far more trouble than it's worth. I think a new case is in order unless there is another method.
 
Yep yep, just got home, and removed the plate from between the graphics cards. Strangely enough now, the top card stays cooler than the bottom card... I understand it's a good idea to advise people against buying these cards if they're using a pants case, but there's nothing I can do about it now (Who would take back a used card after a month?)

It's a p55 board, so there's only a single card's width between GPUs.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the setup though, the temps never get high enough to do any damage when gaming (only in furmark.) The cards are very quiet, and idle <30c when the case is closed. As Secret_Window has mentioned though, I think the case is pretty restrictive in it's design, perhaps the foam impedes airflow (the system temps are very reasonable however, especially with a massive CPU heatsink in there.) Maybe I can try juggling HDDs around, see if that helps the airflow.

Case in point, don't buy a foam padded silent case for an SLI rig unless you want high GPU temps. (I wouldn't mind so much if my i5 ever reached the 50+ mark, even though it's overclocked.)
 
Would anyone happen to know of any novel GPU cooling solutions then?

Two that I found so far, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CM-003-LL This, and http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-219-LL&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=399 This.

What I would like to know is, can either of these be set to blow rather than suck (lawl,) in or out of the case? It would make more sense to suck into the case, blowing all over the GPUs.

Right, enough with the inuendos.

Alternatively, I could just do a crap-tastic case mode with a 120mm fan..

Ta!
 
smoory said:
Would anyone happen to know of any novel GPU cooling solutions then?
Ta!
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try Two of these :p

Gigabyte_GV-N460OC-1GI_DVI_HDMI_front_view.jpg



Flog your sli setup and take the money hit...then add a few quid to buy 2 of these

:D

In all seriousness though the gigabyte cards, and yes I have one, are the quietest cards I've owned :)
 
smoory said:
Hey guys,

Does anyone else have a pair of these SLI'd? I'm running a pair in a NZXT hush case, and it seems that the top card stabilizes at around 98-99 deg centigrade under dual-gpu furmark load! Is this safe? o.O

The only thing I can think of trying is to pop the in-between back panel off so the top card can suck in some fresh air. Maybe the case doesn't have a high enough airflow, however temps ran into the mid 90s even with the side panel off.

The bottom card reaches late 80s when it stabilises.

Normally this isn't a big issue though, they don't tend to reach maximum temp when gaming... Might be nice to get em cooler though to keep it quieter.

Steve.
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The Hush is an awful case for airflow, I had one and got rid after 3 months.
 
bhavv said:
The Palit GTX 460 has been strongly disadvised on just about every major hardware forum. The cooler is pants, as well as a lot of the boards having lots of other problems.

SLI'ing two of the standard Palit GTX 460s is even worse, if you want an SLI / Crossfire setup, you need cards with good cooling and airflow (front + side case fans are very important).

The Gigabyte / MSI / Asus versions of the GTX 460 have been the most recommendable ones to buy since the cards first launched. You shouldnt buy a gimped version when there are better ones available for the same price. The graphics card manufacturers would eventually learn that they cant release shoddy cards if they lose sales as a result of doing so.

The GTX 460 reference design was actually superior to several of the ones that were released such as the Palit and one of the Zotacs with a rubbish blower cooler.
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My pair of Palits don't go over 80c, don't believe all the drama queens on the net, its the case, its a foam lined oven.
 
kitch9 said:
My pair of Palits don't go over 80c, don't believe all the drama queens on the net, its the case, its a foam lined oven.
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Spot on m8 my card is a gr8 card don't knock it till you try it too many people far to sensitive to a small woosh lol
 
Hello smoory and other Palit GeForce GTX 460 Sonic owners . . .

I've read lots of people complaining about their Palit GTX 460's and I've also read about people being happy with the same card? . . . all very confusing? :confused:

After a bit of research on the subject it appears there are two different versions of the card floating about . . . one with a VRM heatsink and one without? . . . the card without a VRM heatsink gets hotter quicker and forces the fan to speed up quite a lot . . .

Full details here and here

 
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