If you could make one thing legal
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Do you honestly think you will persuade people that your right with these directed and unnecessary attacks? Your attitude isn't exactly selling the benefits of drugs.
Although I'd argue that drinking a glass of wine isn't as potentially dangerous as taking e. Not all drinkers are binge drinkers.
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The drug haters in this thread crack me up; I didn't think many people believed the crap that the media spew out but it appears they do 
You only have to look at what happened to the governments drug advisor last year; he told the truth about a number of drugs and got fired because the government were worried people would believe him over their mindless "war on drugs" bull****.
Anyway, to answer the original question: All drugs. Not because I want to take them but because the current system needs a huge overhaul and the easiest way to achieve this is to decriminalise/legalise everything. It's worked for Portugal, why can't we at least give it a try?
Macky also hit the nail on the head, not all drug users are addicts. Most people enjoy drugs in moderation like the majority of the country enjoy alcohol in moderation (or not in moderation as the case may be looking at the state of people in town on a Friday/Saturday evening).
You only have to look at what happened to the governments drug advisor last year; he told the truth about a number of drugs and got fired because the government were worried people would believe him over their mindless "war on drugs" bull****.Anyway, to answer the original question: All drugs. Not because I want to take them but because the current system needs a huge overhaul and the easiest way to achieve this is to decriminalise/legalise everything. It's worked for Portugal, why can't we at least give it a try?
Macky also hit the nail on the head, not all drug users are addicts. Most people enjoy drugs in moderation like the majority of the country enjoy alcohol in moderation (or not in moderation as the case may be looking at the state of people in town on a Friday/Saturday evening).
Don't quite get why everyone wants to do drugs so muchThey must have a sucky life to need/want to 'enhance' it all the time.
Probably posted already, but sucks to be you. One tends to notice that it's those with no first-hand experience, or at best those with limited experience severely lacking in situation- or company-appropriate circumstances, are the quickest to slam other folks' choice to indulge certain substances.
Perhaps that doesn't apply to you, perhaps it does. Either way, still sucks to be you. I'd much rather me at my current stage of life and carrying my experiences than be at any other stage of progression at the burden of ignorance. I'd wager that most puritanicals would disagree with me, but that's fine for you. Sucks to be you, too.
Of course, because everybody who takes pills is a raving psycho who'd put drugs in front of any other aspect of their lives
I would have thought that after Leah Betts people would have taken a slightly more skeptical stance on the crap you're fed through The Sun or ITV news. Clearly I've overestimated the capacity of the British public to make considered, informed opinions.
I guarantee that the death toll from alcohol is higher than the death toll from ecstasy, and I'm not even in the pro-legalisation camp.
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For this stat to be meaningful we must consider the death toll per 100,000 ecstacy takers versus the death toll per 100,000 drinkers.
As I see it there are a few different stances towards drugs.
1) There are people who disagree with drugs, who would never take drugs, and believe that there is no need to take drugs.
2) There are people who take drugs and believe they should be made more readily available without fear of legal reprisals.
3) There are people who may or may not take drugs, but who understand potential benefits of decriminalisation.
4) There are people who may or may not take drugs, but who disagree with decriminalisation.
Those in group 1, I believe, are naive. They disagree with taking drugs and criticise those that do. Clearly these people would have no personal experience to base their opinions on as they are so strongly positioned against drugs. Their information must therefore be obtained via a mainly sensationalist media who, for the most part, are anti-drugs. It isn't hard to find (reputable) sources that will argue that currently legal drugs (alcohol and tobacco) are more dangerous than the likes of ecstasy and cannabis - David Nutt springs to mind. Will those people in group 1 take interest in this information? Unlikely, as it isn't in their interests as they have no interest in drugs anyway.
Those people in group 2, whilst I agree with them, are really just looking out for themselves. They will find it hard to persuade anyone in group 1 that drugs are perfectly acceptable as the crux of their argument will probably revolve around explaining how good ecstasy makes you feel.
I'm in group 3. There is a strong argument to support the decriminalisation of drugs for a number of reasons. Firstly, there is the aforementioned evidence that shows currently illegal drugs to be relatively harmless when compared to legal drugs. Secondly, the decriminalisation of drugs would potentially reduce the amount of associated crime whilst consequently improving the quality and safety of the drugs available to people. Take MDMA - barring allergic reactions it won't kill you unless cut with other incredibly more harmful drugs. The only way to ensure it is good quality is to have some sort of legal regulation in place. Thirdly, as in Portugal, it might actually help drug addicts.
Also to Klo - everyone who takes drugs isn't missing something in their lives. If a substance is there that can safely enhance an experience then I see no reason not to take it.
1) There are people who disagree with drugs, who would never take drugs, and believe that there is no need to take drugs.
2) There are people who take drugs and believe they should be made more readily available without fear of legal reprisals.
3) There are people who may or may not take drugs, but who understand potential benefits of decriminalisation.
4) There are people who may or may not take drugs, but who disagree with decriminalisation.
Those in group 1, I believe, are naive. They disagree with taking drugs and criticise those that do. Clearly these people would have no personal experience to base their opinions on as they are so strongly positioned against drugs. Their information must therefore be obtained via a mainly sensationalist media who, for the most part, are anti-drugs. It isn't hard to find (reputable) sources that will argue that currently legal drugs (alcohol and tobacco) are more dangerous than the likes of ecstasy and cannabis - David Nutt springs to mind. Will those people in group 1 take interest in this information? Unlikely, as it isn't in their interests as they have no interest in drugs anyway.
Those people in group 2, whilst I agree with them, are really just looking out for themselves. They will find it hard to persuade anyone in group 1 that drugs are perfectly acceptable as the crux of their argument will probably revolve around explaining how good ecstasy makes you feel.
I'm in group 3. There is a strong argument to support the decriminalisation of drugs for a number of reasons. Firstly, there is the aforementioned evidence that shows currently illegal drugs to be relatively harmless when compared to legal drugs. Secondly, the decriminalisation of drugs would potentially reduce the amount of associated crime whilst consequently improving the quality and safety of the drugs available to people. Take MDMA - barring allergic reactions it won't kill you unless cut with other incredibly more harmful drugs. The only way to ensure it is good quality is to have some sort of legal regulation in place. Thirdly, as in Portugal, it might actually help drug addicts.
Also to Klo - everyone who takes drugs isn't missing something in their lives. If a substance is there that can safely enhance an experience then I see no reason not to take it.
Myself and about 400 fellow bikers rode through Sheffield without helmets the other week due to it being a mate's funeral. The police turn a blind eye on funerals when the Hells Angels and others are present.
Everyone I spoke to said they loved the lack of confinement and freedom and would take a lot of journeys without lids if they had the choice. Weather is the main factor.
Oh, and before any smartarses make an ironic link between my friend's death and this post, be aware that my mate was wearing a full face helmet when he was killed instantly by a drunk driver overtaking on the wrong side of the road. Nothing would have saved him.
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Don't quite get why everyone wants to do drugs so much
Quite narrow-minded mate, totally respect that you may have never touched them but you cant really make a comment on that which you obviously don't know enough about. Some people can moderate themselves and have perfectly happy and healthy lifes while doing them.
I did have a different response to this posted but Knives,Kona and others explained what i would try to point out better than i could lol
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I'd guess it's probably comparable, or higher, and would certainly take a bet that if drugs were produced to the same standards as alcohol then alcohol would be the more dangerous.
Should probably edit the "guarantee" in my original post if I'm going to climb down a bit
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Based on what?
Actually you've missed one there, me.
I don't fit into any of those groups. I don't do drugs, I also don't drink or smoke. My peers also consider me to be the life of the party , I don't do them because I simply have no need, I have plenty of fun without them and am very happy without the need for external chemical addition.
However , I am not against drugs and don't care if other people do them, I just don't. As such I don't fit into any of your 4 categories.
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