UK-France Defence Treaties

scorza said:
I think it might be going straight into mothball.
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So in that case we will have one carrier, and another when we can afford to use it?

Thats not so bad then.

I dont know why, but I was under the impression that France was buying one of our carriers and scrapping their current one. :o Thinking about it way too much.
 
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EdGey said:
So in that case we will have one carrier, and another when we can afford to use it?

Thats not so bad then.

I dont know why, but I was under the impression that France was buying one of our carriers and scrapping their current one. :o Thinking about it way too much.
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Who knows, but the current design of carriers won't support French (or US!) jets lol.
 
I don't have a problem with it for say 5-10 years. But 50 !?!?! years seem utterly ridiculous.

I'm sure in 10-15 years we will be able to afford some planes for our carriers. Then we won't need the French anymore?

Why can't they just abort the scrapping of the Harriers? What exactly says we can't cancel that plan? My understanding is that £350mil is all that is needed to fund the Harriers for another 10 years. With all the big numbers we've hearing in past 2 years, £350mil doesn't seem that big anymore?
 
Tombstone said:
Makes sense imo, but did we have to pick France? Couldnt we do this with Germany instead, that way we'd get access to all the latest Heckler & Koch stuff and the latest Leopard tanks and what not.
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One of the key points of the treaty is inter-operability with aircraft carriers and if I remember rightly, the German navy doesn't have such a capability.

The French have an almost brand new carrier in the Charles de Gaulle and we will have two new state of the art carriers in the coming years albeit one will be in mothballs straight away.
 
Well if you want to bring up ex-war enemies/allies. It could be worse, rather France than Italy!
One minute they're allies, next they back out, next they're enemies.

Although I prefer pizza to croissants..
 
The best example of British - French military cooperation I can think of was the Battle of Agincourt, in that we fired arrows, and the French Knights obligingly charged into them. :D
 
I haven't had a chance to review the specific legislation, yet. But in principle, I couldn't support this more, an absolutely terrific idea.
 
Apparantly the British will be in charge of defending coastlines, naval bases and airbases, the French will look after the attics :p
 
The Funktopus said:
The best example of British - French military cooperation I can think of was the Battle of Agincourt, in that we fired arrows, and the French Knights obligingly charged into them. :D
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Meh, Suez was a brilliant example of Anglo-French military co-operation. Right up until we were stabbed in the back by our so-called closest ally the good old USA.
 
A good idea, reduction of redundant equipment and economies of scale can be achieved. This is a good start towards a reduction of pointless standing armed forces.
 
Ok so it might have lasted 1-2 years. What difference does it make though? It still doesnt mean war between two large powers ''doesnt work'' just becuase it would be over faster.
 
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