Shoplifting? Moral objection, or just scared of being nicked?

If I could get a whole case of iPads out the shop door without anyone noticing and no backlash... Hell yes I would :p

My morels only stretch so far :p
 
You all say no yet I bet 99% of you have pirated films, music, programs & games on your computer. Which is in my opinion worse than stealing some random crap from Tesco.

I'd take whatever from Tesco if there were no risks involved, not from a smaller shop that needs the business, but I'd rape the faceless corporations.
 
Which is in my opinion worse than stealing some random crap from Tesco..

Explain how it's worse.


I'd take whatever from Tesco if there were no risks involved, not from a smaller shop that needs the business, but I'd rape the faceless corporations.

Also explain how stealing from a company like tesco that employs thousands is fine.
 
You all say no yet I bet 99% of you have pirated films, music, programs & games on your computer. Which is in my opinion worse than stealing some random crap from Tesco.

How is taking a physical item not worse than making a copy?

A painter copying the Mona Lisa is worse than a thief stealing it?
 
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You all say no yet I bet 99% of you have pirated films, music, programs & games on your computer. Which is in my opinion worse than stealing some random crap from Tesco.

I'd take whatever from Tesco if there were no risks involved, not from a smaller shop that needs the business, but I'd rape the faceless corporations.

What if they stole a video game or a CD? :p
 
Explain how it's worse.
Tescos is a massive corporation who can cope with you taking stuff. Hell they even market stuff so aggressively that they themselves lose money on some products just to get people in the store.
I have lots of respect for the developers of this software, whereas I have no respect for Tesco, they're not a good company, just the wal-mart of the UK.

Also explain how stealing from a company like tesco that employs thousands is fine.

You could empty one of their stores and to you and me it's be like losing 50p, you know it.


What if they stole a video game or a CD? :p
Just as bad as pirating imo. :p


How is taking a physical item worse than making a copy?

A painter copying the Mona Lisa is worse than a thief stealing it?

At the end of the day you're not paying for either product and still getting full use out of it. I never said taking a physical one was worse, they're both the same really.

Also that's a stupid analogy, you're trying to defend NOT PAYING for a product which YOU'RE LEGALLY MEANT to pay for, but because it's over the internet it's fine, right? Or is that as soon as you deprive a big company like Tesco of their share of selling the product that it becomes wrong?

Please, trying to say stealing a CD and pirating the same CD is different is kinda silly, you know it is, the only difference is that you must venture out to get the actual disk.
Also don't start with the copy stuff, because the CD is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy...They're both copies.
 
once, for a laugh i walked round a large store shoplifting several items, making it very obvious until I got the attention of the security guard. then i walked round for about ten minutes whilst the guard was discretley trying to follow me, then I put everything back. It was hilarious.
Stealing is wrong! work hard and pay for your goods.If you can't afford something work harder and save up untill you can and feel good in the knowledge that you have earned it.
If you feel something is vastly over priced, don't buy it. that will hurt the sellers more so than stealing.
 
Oh come on, what a load of crap from people who seem to be implying that theft is bad yet pirating is acceptable as it's technically not a crime.

It's obvious they have the same practical affect of intentionally reducing profit entitled to be received and are accordingly both immoral.

I think you'd have to either be a moron or a jerk to try and claim one is ok but the other isn't.
 
Well no, not really.

Piracy and physical theft may seem the same on paper but in reality they're not. They don't attract the same type of person either.

Someone might download a music file but they'd never think about stealing something from a shop even if I knew I'd get away with it.

I'd imagine the same goes for the majority of people too.
 
Here's a question to the pirates .. 'blokey taking tickets' at the cinema goes for a slash fo 20 seconds. Would you consider ducking into the cinema and watching your film without a ticket?

If you wouldn't do it for 'moral reasons' - how is this different from piracy?



Question 2: Football stadium - someone has forced down a bit of the fence and wandered in without paying. The fence is now bust, and it's glaringly easy to get in without paying. You weren't going to watch the game at all (it's the world cup final), but now you can watch for free just wander on in despite everyone else paying £300 a ticket ...

If you wouldn't do it for 'moral reasons' - how is this different from piracy?
 
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Sneaking in to the cinema though in a Sam Fisher scenario sounds like fun :p

They fleece you for tickets @ £7.50~ anyway and then there's £5 on a small bucket of popcorn so it's a fair deal.
 
Well no, not really.

Piracy and physical theft may seem the same on paper but in reality they're not. They don't attract the same type of person either.

Someone might download a music file but they'd never think about stealing something from a shop even if I knew I'd get away with it.

I'd imagine the same goes for the majority of people too.

Actually they are not the same on paper, yet they put the victim in the same practical position. This is particuarly true regarding the theft or piracy of goods from someone expecting to sell the product on question.

It's a pet peeve of mine that people can assume that because something is a crime is always less morally acceptable than a civil offence. Steal a mans wallet and you can cause a thousand pounds loss and a weeks inconvenience. Defame a man and you can cost him millions and ruin his life.
 
This all depends on what is being pirated though. Most of the time it's the publisher and not the artist that gets "hurt" although I feel hurt is too wrong a word for it because of the way many publishers go about their business making millions and giving very little to the actual artists especially when they're not major names.
 
This all depends on what is being pirated though. Most of the time it's the publisher and not the artist that gets "hurt" although I feel hurt is too wrong a word for it because of the way many publishers go about their business making millions and giving very little to the actual artists especially when they're not major names.

So by that logic it is OK to steal from Tesco as the manufacturer won't get hurt and Tesco already make millions in some pretty unsavoury ways too?
 
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