Tuition fees going up to £9000 a year

Dj_Jestar said:
Will you stop throwing that figure about like they have to pay £9,000 on the day they arrive at university? This rise will mean diddly squat to future students. They will not have to pay it until after they have graduated, and have themselves in a job that pays enough to sustained a livelihood AND the cut-off is also being raised to £21,000 salary.
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You say it like £9,000 Per Year is nothing, and £21,000 to be living on your own, probably in the middle of a city, it enough to have a half decent standard of living? (After bills, loans and possible mortgage)
 
xJcBx said:
You say it like £9,000 Per Year is nothing, and £21,000 to be living on your own, probably in the middle of a city, it enough to have a half decent standard of living? (After bills, loans and possible mortgage)
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You don't make any sense. What has being able to live on £21k a year got to do with anything?
 
Where has this notion that EVERYBODY has to go to university come from?

Lets go to university, get loads of utterly worthless qualifications, and still end up working in a warehouse.

Hundreds of thousands of young people leaving school with media studies qualifications wanting to work in the media, an industry that has roughly 35,000 people working in it.

My step sister went and got some fantastic degree in phycology a really specialised division of it, of which there were 3 positions active in the NHS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
She's never gotten to use it, she ended up working for Adobe in admin.
 
xJcBx said:
You say it like £9,000 Per Year is nothing, and £21,000 to be living on your own, probably in the middle of a city, it enough to have a half decent standard of living?
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Why in the middle of a city? :confused: Why not do what the majority of the population do and get a cheaper place to live in the suburbs?

£21k is above the nation average salary, so yes, it is a half decent standard of living. You can't always have a silver spoon.
 
Good, maybe this will deter the majority from attending which means the lucky ones, with degrees already, have less future competition!!

I'll probably be really unpopular by saying this, but it should be brought to Scotland aswell, SAAS must spend millions every year on dropouts.

But in all honesty, faaaaar too many people are going to Uni these days, soo many of them shouldn't be there. In my first year of uni we had about ;

70 odd in our discipline in first year,
40 by second year,
30 third and probably ,
25 or so by fourth year.

So thats about 30 x 1,700 = £51,000!! in first year alone in only one subject at one Uni!

It's insane the amount they must shell out!
 
Considering the cost for a year of tuition for one student is MUCH more than the current tuition fees, if you think £9000 is too much, what does that say about the value of the course?

If the course is not worth the money is should not exist. However, since individual tuition fees have been much lower than actual course costs, lots of bogus courses which have no business existing have been popular.

Also, decrease in uni students means less requirement for a degree for good jobs. Look at a lot of older top earners, plenty with no degree. Reason this is not as much the case any more is the inflation in degrees - since there are so many degrees you need a degree bare minimun to be considered.

Perhaps this will bring it down a bit. I would have loved if this happened happened 10 years ago or so, although a bit more expensive please, then perhaps I could have skipped going to uni.
 
atpbx said:
Where has this notion that EVERYBODY has to go to university come from?
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Labour.

atpbx said:
Lets go to university, get loads of utterly worthless qualifications, and still end up working in a warehouse.

Hundreds of thousands of young people leaving school with media studies qualifications wanting to work in the media, an industry that has roughly 35,000 people working in it.

My step sister went and got some fantastic degree in phycology a really specialised division of it, of which there were 3 positions active in the NHS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
She's never gotten to use it, she ended up working for Adobe in admin.
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Indeed. It's just common sense. As soon as something becomes ubiquitous, it loses its value.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
National average salary is just over £24k.
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Slightly off topic, but I think a median would be far more appropriate than a mean for determining national average... I'm not sure which one that figure is using, but I imagine the national average is massively skewed by enourmous City salaries.
 
AtticusFinch said:
Many things cost money. Tertiary education is one of those things.

Accept this and move on I say.
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People will have a hard time doing this because they've had it easy for over a decade. Labour told them they could all have degrees, now the Conservatives are taking that away. Expect a lot of moaning and rubbishy student protests form leftie teens who have no idea of the mess the education and graduate system is in.
 
Nitefly said:
Slightly off topic, but I think a median would be far more appropriate than a mean for determining national average... I'm not sure which one that figure is using, but I imagine the national average is massively skewed by enourmous City salaries.
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Median was actually £25,428 in 2009. Good point, though
 
I think engineering, maths and science degrees should be subsidised for bright, promising candidates, personally. Too many people are doing degrees that won't really make them stand out from the crowd, we need to encourage the more "useful" degrees IMO.

*runs*
 
eatcustard said:
At least it will get rid of the the pointless degrees.
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How do you figure? The so called "pointless" degrees will probably end up being cheaper meaning that more people do them. I'm certain that it'll be the STEM subjects that will end up costing £9000 a year.
 
Well this pretty much puts me in the firing line, finish GCSEs at the end of this year and i plan on doing A Levels for two years... i'm probably cleverer than my brother and i'm finding it hard to see how he's able to go to university but i probably won't be. Everybody IS entitled to this education. Not that the education system means squat, you're taught what you need to pass exams in the shortest time which rarely includes anything of any real value. Every single lesson i've learned in the past year that i'll actually remember have been learned in my own time.

That said, i'll be fighting the cuts at every opportunity i get, i'll be damned if i'm giving up without even trying. Damn Tories, every single time...
 
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