Hot as the sun....

Drkalinium · 3 Nov 2010 at 22:22

I am having serious problems (still) with my pc the heating in pc is really messed up. My CPU and MPH (thats the Northbridge right?) are getting very hot the CPU, MB, cooler and RAM (plus settings) are part of a overclockers bundle so its not like I have pushed it past what its supposed to go past (they test it before hand).But I have just found that it can crash in prolonged playing of CPU intensive games (the two so far are Far Cry 2 and bad company 2). There seem to be no other problems with the hardware which I have check over. I assume it must be a problem with the amount of thermal paste I put on the CPU as when I tried to move around the cooler I accidently rubbed off most of the paste and the problem got worse (as you can tell I am rather an idiot). So is thermal paste the problem? or could it be how I mounted the cooler?

my system
Windows 7
i7 930 4GHz
6GB 1.6GHz RAM
2x5870 1GB
750 Watt Coursair PSU
640GB HDD

RJC · 3 Nov 2010 at 22:27

What are the temps your getting, also what software are you using to monitor.

Tealc · 3 Nov 2010 at 23:00

Bad Company 2 isn't that particularly CPU intensive for a i7 9xx CPU at 4Ghz. I have a readout on CPU1 utilisation in-game and it doesn't go above 50% most of the time.

Run Prime95 and see what your temperatures go up to.

Sayso · 4 Nov 2010 at 06:17

BC2 is the only thing that makes my 8hr prime/50linx stable PC crash.

Drkalinium · 4 Nov 2010 at 10:32

I am (because I buggered up thermal paste) using it at regular clock now and its idling at 43-44 oc (coretemp) from about 65-68 oc idle with overclock (but I have seen it at about 80 under load ie tab out to check temps). Also since I have thermal paste to replace what I wiped off I cant get it to boot with overclock as it just crashes and says it is too hot.

ThomasTheTankEngine · 4 Nov 2010 at 11:42

Sayso said:
BC2 is the only thing that makes my 8hr prime/50linx stable PC crash.

Dice games have always been randomly unstable. Some people are lucky, but some people end up with hardware/driver combinations that cause frequent ctd's.... and theres not much you can do about it.

Drkalinium · 4 Nov 2010 at 12:11

jimbob27 said:
Dice games have always been randomly unstable. Some people are lucky, but some people end up with hardware/driver combinations that cause frequent ctd's.... and theres not much you can do about it.

its not CTDs though its full blow pc crashes

ThomasTheTankEngine · 4 Nov 2010 at 12:43

Drkalinium said:
its not CTDs though its full blow pc crashes

Still probably Dice's fault.

I've seen it too many times for it to be a coincidence. Pc's that are perfectly stable in stress tests and other games, but Dice games crash.

OLDPHART · 4 Nov 2010 at 14:35

If you have rubbed of some of the thermel paste, yes this could give you higher temps and could cause the PC to crash. Get some isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol from the chemist or some proper TIM cleaner Ocuk sell it, clean the CPU. Then re-apply some thermal paste about the size of a small pea in the center of the CPU and when you fastern your Cooler down. Make sure you fastern the cooler down the right way, as this will spread the thermal paste and then check temps.

TIM Cleaner - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=OA-001-AK&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=27

Apparently, some Realtek onbroad soundcards cause a PC to crash playing BC2 and one or two other games, try disabling your onbroad sound in the Bios and see what happens.

HazardO · 4 Nov 2010 at 18:14

OLDPHART said:
If you have rubbed of some of the thermel paste, yes this could give you higher temps and could cause the PC to crash. Get some isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol from the chemist or some proper TIM cleaner Ocuk sell it, clean the CPU. Then re-apply some thermal paste about the size of a small pea in the center of the CPU and when you fastern your Cooler down. Make sure you fastern the cooler down the right way, as this will spread the thermal paste and then check temps.

TIM Cleaner - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=OA-001-AK&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=27

Apparently, some Realtek onbroad soundcards cause a PC to crash playing BC2 and one or two other games, try disabling your onbroad sound in the Bios and see what happens.

If you use a citrus based cleaner, you should also use IPA as well, the citrus based cleaners can leave an oily residue themselves (They do shift the TIM though).

setter · 4 Nov 2010 at 18:25

OLDPHART said:
Apparently, some Realtek onbroad soundcards cause a PC to crash playing BC2 and one or two other games, try disabling your onbroad sound in the Bios and see what happens.

I had similair crashes on bc2 when using the onboard sound on my asus p6t dlx v2, switched to a xonar dx pcie soundcard and it hasnt happened since.

Drkalinium · 4 Nov 2010 at 22:20

hmmm well that is interesting and also annoying, but since reseating heat sink ive had probs in far cry even at stock speeds so i checked temps and they were ok, now it seems i have a ram problem. Now once before i did have a thing were only 2GB of Ram registered on boot once so i moved the sticks and it registered al 6 again. Now im having a similar prob with it registering 4GB and I can get to do 6GB on reboot or by moving sticks but then the comp (either on boot or just after log in) with bluescreen (IRQL is not less or equal). Holy **** what is going on? like ive been super careful always making sure im grounded and gentle with the components could they just be faulty or is it my fault?

rjk · 5 Nov 2010 at 08:37

Hi Drkalinium

could you post which bundle you had so i can try to advise?

also, if it is an overheating problem because you removed all of the paste then we could do with knowing the temps.

push comes to shove, i can try and get a replacement tube of paste out in the post to you.

also, what case do you have and what is the airflow like in it?

Essexraptor · 5 Nov 2010 at 08:55

setter said:
I had similair crashes on bc2 when using the onboard sound on my asus p6t dlx v2, switched to a xonar dx pcie soundcard and it hasnt happened since.

Take it slightly of course.... but i was told this may be a cause of my constant crashing as well... Realtek drivers

So the Xonar DX fixed it?

Back on track... I would do as suggested and start from scratch and re mount the cooler to resolve this issue. It may take a couple of tries to get the amount of grease and spread right but worth the effort

Drkalinium · 5 Nov 2010 at 13:01

rjkoneill said:
Hi Drkalinium

could you post which bundle you had so i can try to advise?

also, if it is an overheating problem because you removed all of the paste then we could do with knowing the temps.

push comes to shove, i can try and get a replacement tube of paste out in the post to you.

also, what case do you have and what is the airflow like in it?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-029-OB&groupid=43&catid=339&subcat= The bundle i got isnt sold anymore but it is basically this one with a i7 930 not 950 and http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-072-AK&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395 this cooler.

With regards to the paste and cpu cleaning stuff I've already had some ordered so I should be able to re-apply some soon. My case is quite cheap and only 1 front fan and 1 at the back the air flow seems ok can't be too good but seems ok as the air coming out the back of the case is hotter than inside it.

Drkalinium · 5 Nov 2010 at 13:28

Also with regards to the RAM prob its very odd on boot the bios says 4GB of RAM but registers the fact there are 3x2GB and in windows 7 system it says 6GB (4GB usable) what does this mean? busted memory? cause if the board is registering it it must not be the mobo right?

Drkalinium · 5 Nov 2010 at 23:54