Employer requesting personal details.

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My brothers employer has just won a contract with the police. They've just told him that he has to supply the name, address, date and place of birth etc off all his direct family members by tomorrow morning.

I've asked who will have this information and he says it will be passed onto the police but held locally at his place of work.

He doesn't want to give any of this information to his employers but is happy to deal directly with the police, however this isn't an option as his employer has told everyone "details by tomorrow or you'll be looking for a new job"

Is it legal for them to demand this information under the threat of being sacked?
 
Orange Peel said:
My brothers employer has just won a contract with the police. They've just told him that he has to supply the name, address, date and place of birth etc off all his direct family members by tomorrow morning.

I've asked who will have this information and he says it will be passed onto the police but held locally at his place of work.

He doesn't want to give any of this information to his employers but is happy to deal directly with the police, however this isn't an option as his employer has told everyone "details by tomorrow or you'll be looking for a new job"Is it legal for them to demand this information under the threat of being sacked?
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Blimey! :eek:
 
What sort of job does he do, Does he work with children or something like that, Is it a job which requires CRB checking?

Maybe the company was supposed to do this initially and have not, now they are being chased for them?
 
Is it legal, short answer is I do not believe it is mandatory for you or any other family member to give this information except in very clearly defined circumstances.
As for the threat, has the company never heard of constructive dismissal?
 
Orange Peel said:
Is it legal for them to demand this information under the threat of being sacked?
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I would think they'd be required to at least give you a reasonable period of time within which to supply the information. A day is not enough (assuming he's been told today).
 
Colbaker said:
What sort of job does he do, Does he work with children or something like that, Is it a job which requires CRB checking?

Maybe the company was supposed to do this initially and have not, now they are being chased for them?
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The person coming into contact with children or vulnerable adults must be checked but not family members. The only circumstances I can can envisage is that if all employees are being positively vetted, a highly unlikely scenario.
 
Colbaker said:
What sort of job does he do, Does he work with children or something like that, Is it a job which requires CRB checking?

Maybe the company was supposed to do this initially and have not, now they are being chased for them?
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CRB checks do not require this level of disclosure. It is likely to be some form of security clearance, probably SC or security check which if I recall all Police Officers are required to submit to.
 
He works for a recovery firm who specialise in recovering vehicles which the police have been invloved with. Basically fatals, drug related etc.

He's been there 10 years and has been passed by the police but as this is a new contract they're demanding this information.

His employer is a duche bag and rules by intimidation. My bro has got on well with him for years and just keeps his head down. Generally it's just the owner who's the tool as they job iself is good so he doens't want to make waves but feels this information show only be available to the police.
 
Castiel said:
CRB checks do not require this level of disclosure. It is likely to be some form of security clearance, probably SC or security check which if I recall all Police Officers are required to submit to.
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But as far as I can remember from when a friend had to do it the information just goes down on the form which then gets sent off it has no reason to be handed over to the people employing them. It was a few years ago so I may be completly wrong
 
Find out what type of security clearance they now need. It is certainly possible to have security clearance that requires disclosure of such information. Refusal to provide information for a required security clearance is valid grounds for dismissal as well if the role changes to require it.
 
Dolph said:
Find out what type of security clearance they now need. It is certainly possible to have security clearance that requires disclosure of such information. Refusal to provide information for a required security clearance is valid grounds for dismissal as well if the role changes to require it.
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But don't we have to OK our information being given/held by his employer. What happens if I don't want them to know where I live. It's not my brothers fault!
 
tom_e said:
But as far as I can remember from when a friend had to do it the information just goes down on the form which then gets sent off it has no reason to be handed over to the people employing them. It was a few years ago so I may be completly wrong
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For CRB's it is the service provider that requires the information and in this case the police would be the recipient of the disclosure, not the employer.

We have to CRB check all our employees for council contracts, it is the council that receives the disclosure, not us. We only pass on the forms and pay the fees.

We generally only find out anything when there is a problem.
 
Orange Peel said:
But don't we have to OK our information being given/held by his employer. What happens if I don't want them to know where I live. It's not my brothers fault!
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Not if it's for a security clearance (if indeed it is).

Sounds unfair, but that's the nature of some types of work.
 
Orange Peel said:
But don't we have to OK our information being given/held by his employer. What happens if I don't want them to know where I live. It's not my brothers fault!
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Many years ago I had to submit to a DV check and I had to tell them everything about everyone I had contact with. It included financial, previous employment, family and they interviewed friends as well as family. all in all it took about 5 months and was pretty invasive. I would not have been able to do my job however without it, so it was necessary, if I had refused then I would have been reassigned (or in civvie street, sacked I would expect).
 
Direct family members usually relates only to those who live in the same house. So to a large extent you are only releasing data that is little more than that which is effectively on the electoral roll.

So remember if that was what was requested then that's all you need to give. If the boss is such an idiot as to ask an incomplete question then its his own fault if he gets an incomplete reply...;)
 
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