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Nvidia has 28nm sample chips

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Don't normally link to FUD but what the hell.

Roll on Kepler.

Even though most recent NVIDIA-related news has been about its existing Fermi line, or its upcoming GeForce GTX 580, a certain rumor seems to suggest something quite interesting may have happened on its side of the playing field.

As end-users well know, after AMD launched its first DirectX 11 cards, it took NVIDIA about half a year to get around to releasing its Fermi adapters.

This was owed to several factors, such as repeated research and development-induced delays and problems with TSMC's 40nm manufacturing process technology.

As such, it can be safely said that AMD's current strong hold over the DirectX 11 market is due to it several month-long monopoly.

Now, a certain rumor seems to suggest that the Santa Clara, California-based company does not plan on being late again.

As end-users no doubt know, both AMD and NVIDIA are working on their next-generation GPUs.

What consumers may not be aware of, however, is that, based on what Fudzilla says in a recent report, the GPU maker already has some samples of GPUs based on the 28nm manufacturing process.

Dubbed GF1x9, it is supposedly an entry-level chip built on the High Metal gate 28nm process.

If true, this means that the video board maker has been working faster, in line with its intention to claim dominance over the DirectX 11 graphics market, although mass production still won't start before the second half of 2011.

It should be noted that Advanced Micro Devices should also receive its own samples of 28nm chips not too far into the future.

In fact, Globalfoundries should finish its own first batch of 28nm samples this very quarter.

What remains to be seen is just which of the two rivals gets to start mass production of these chips first and, by extension, if the competition will be tighter next year.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDIA-Already-Has-Samples-of-28nm-Chips-164852.shtml
 
A couple of weeks early for NVIDIA is something to shout about though. Hope they don't get as many problems with the yields like the last time.

I want a GTX 680 in the January sales! :)
 
Its a low end Fermi on 28nm, which isn't expected to go into production before Q3 2011, its not kepler test chips.

It does finally indicate at least someone at Nvidia has changed their thinking from

"I don't care if everyone else in the industry thinks 530mm2 is too big, it will work, for we are Spa...Nvidia!!"

To AMD's strategy of "maybe we should test out the new process before screwing our high end chip up and losing millions upon millions".

Doesn't really tell us all that much except, most likely the new low end based on Kepler is probably miles off if the low end Fermi is only coming 6 months from now. It will likely be a GT310 replacement, currently the 96/48shader 430/420 are MASSIVE compared to a GT310, which is why they are still making the older generation parts by the bucketloads. The desparately need something small and DX11 to replace it with.
 
Not really a change in strategy, 28nm low end chips have been road mapped for December through to April/May (sample to production) for awhile now... its just a few short weeks earlier than the projected roadmap.

As far as kepler goes as you said we are still almost 6 months from high-k 28nm process samples.
 
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Amd are looking to bring out the 7 series before nvidia gtx6** series. Read below for more info. Link is from the site that rhymes with nexus and starts with h.

"GeForce GTX 580? Boring. Radeon 6900-series? Old news. It looks like the latest GPU buzz has already moved-on to the next generation, and that means one thing - 28nm.

For NVIDIA this is Kepler, and apparently TSMC has already sent early samples back to the company's engineers for evaluation. The source is suggesting that these are low-end parts - bearing the designation GF1x9 - though this shouldn't come as too much of a surprise. Manufacturing on a new process will almost always result in a low yield so a smaller, less complex chip should mean that a greater number of them are viable.

With the next generation GeForce GPUs being sampled despite not being expected to ship until at least autumn 2011, you'd be forgiven for thinking NVIDIA had a head start. Apparently not, though, as another source (thanks to DjiXas for the tip) is suggesting that AMD's gearing up to launch its 'Southern Islands' GPUs in the second quarter of next year.

Not a lot is known about the GLOBALFOUNDRIES-sourced chips that are likely to make up the Radeon HD 7000-series, but it was believed that they would launch in the second half of the year, around the same time as Kepler. However, this rumour suggests that the manufacturer was keen to shift the release date to maintain a competitive advantage over NVIDIA.

With both graphics cards still so far away, an awful lot can change before launch, and even if the rumours are true now the facts could easily change. The only thing we know for sure is that, as ever, there's something new just around the corner."
 
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Personally i don't mind linking to any rumours because all rumours no matter where they come from are still rumours just some sites tend to be a lot more accurate.
 
40nm, theres no 32nm process.

Oh I see, 28nm is quite a leap then. I think I was getting a little mixed up with CPU's, as intel to use 32nm too produce the i3 don't they?

I guess the proof will be in the pudding, I really hope Nvidia manage to pull of a quickish passively cooled card once 28nm GPU's start rolling out.
 
***** really are poor with news and stuff, the news as it was rumour today was a GF1x9 samples at 28nm were back with Nvidia already, where did they get Kepler from, even Fud didn't mention Kepler. As for exciting, woo, something didn't tape out but got early samples and won't hit retail for 6 months, maybe more, wooo.

6970 taped out in April or so, did anyone, even the biggest AMD only guys go Fermi whatever, 6970 taped out, its basically right on top of us, no, ***** news guys and not knowing what they are talking about shocker.

The news might be marginally interesting it if was both a Tape out, and GF2xx something, that would be Kepler and a tape out would mean you could guesstimate the dates to a degree(and work out where each respin would take them time wise).

But a sample and not a tape out, the sample might be so bad we don't see it for 18 months, or so good it will tape out in a month, and be seen in 6 months.

IIRC didn't GloFo show off some 28nm sample wafers at CES, or maybe the show a couple months later, Intel do it aswell, they show off a wafer of test chips well, often 18months - 2 years before a proper chip hits retail.
 
D.P. Rather than give a personal opinion of drunkenmaster why not give an opinion on the topic?

I wonder if Nvidia and AMD will use 28nm to make faster versions of currenty hardware or *respins* or forge ahead with entire new architecture?
 
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