Protestors trying to disrupt trains carrying nuclear waste in Germany

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I saw this news story: BBC News Story

I would like to highlight:
Officers used batons, pepper spray, tear gas and water cannon to disperse at least 1,000 protesters who were trying to sabotage railway tracks.
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It's rather ironic that these protesters are protesting about how unsafe nuclear is and then try and sabotage a railway track that could cause a disaster. :rolleyes:

I don't quite understand what the fuss is about when it comes to Nuclear power. It can be safe providing there is careful planning and construction and correct procedures are followed throughout the lifetime of a Nuclear power plant.

Besides, we can always invest in Thorium based reactors where the fuel is safer, more efficient, more abundant, and produces less waste.

Unless we invest in better ways of generating massive amounts of clean energy, Nuclear is one of the best alternatives to non-renewable fuels that we use.
 
Fair play to the police risking their lives going onto the tracks to untie the people who chained themselves on it.

Unfortunately greenpeace know very well the danger that sabotaging the rocks would do, but remember an environmental disaster would increase their support which is all they seem to be after. What annoys me about greenpeace, friends of the earth, wwf etc is that they are so ignorant in that they fail to ackowledge the environmental costs of the technologies and concepts they support. Wind farms, wave etc. all impact the environment some way or another and each requires a lot of materials and fuel to build and maintain.

Greenpeace are quite frankly a pathetic organisation, an ex director of the organisation even said that comparing civil nuclear with atomic weapons was wrong and regrettable.
 
Let's not make it personal guys.

I share the opinion of the OP on this one, protesting about these matters shows how ill-informed they are of the real facts about this method of power generation. Also, the haters will have to get used to it as we're making more of them. IMO it's the best way to meet our power demands before renewable (solar) energy is efficient and cost-effective enough to replace it.
 
alexhull24 said:
Let's not make it personal guys.

I share the opinion of the OP on this one, protesting about these matters shows how ill-informed they are of the real facts about this method of power generation. Also, the haters will have to get used to it as we're making more of them. IMO it's the best way to meet our power demands before renewable (solar) energy is efficient and cost-effective enough to replace it.
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Maybe so, but there HAS to be a better way of dealing with the waste. How about launching it into the sun?
 
I'm not sure if it was a serious suggestion about the sun, plus it could come in useful one day. The total amount of nuclear waste material is surprisingly small (including reactor casing etc), so getting rid of it isn't *too* problematic, but I can understand the environmental concerns associated with it. It's a question of weighing up the advantages and disadvantages, and in this case, waste disposal is the clear disadvantage. However, is burying the waste in special containers better than pumping it into the atmosphere? (i.e. coal, gas, oil fired stations). Then we enter the debate about the effects of CO2, which I don't want to at this point as it's OT. Having thought about it myself, I think nuclear is the best option until we have an effective alternative. I think this will be solar power - the numbers mean it's almost inevitably the solution. Unfortunately, it's not quite there yet in terms of cost and storage.
 
Greenlizard0 said:
What if the rocket explodes during take off.

My god, won't somebody think of the children.
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This is literally the only reason why we won't do it. We haven't perfected taking off into space well enough to 100% guarantee a successful launch into space. Even a 0.001% chance of the rocket exploding in the atmosphere is too much. If that ever happened, the scale of the consequences would be enormous. Some think it would even make Chernobyl look tame. Due to atmospheric conditions and winds, entire counties and even nations would be exposed.
 
If fast breeders were used there wouldn't be such a big problem. Anyway, I'm sure having a barrel of nuclear waste could provide quite a sustainable heating source for the house of the future - just make sure all your radiators have a good 50cm of lead covering them.
 
This is why I can't take any eco-activist seriously, they are always getting a bad image from scenarios like these. They not only terrorise, but damage/destroy other peoples property in the process. They always come out with ridiculous statements and uninformed facts. They act like children when they start doing stuff like this, especially the part with fireworks etc, they go into some sort of state akin to "throwing a hissy" and become this one track mind of hatred and destruction, not caring about other people's safety.

Should have let the train hit them, call me sick but they quite clearly put themselves there.
 
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Should just fill a bucket with the nuclear waste then sit on the front of the train and use a spoon to fling bits at them.

*Disclaimer: This might not work*
 
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