Who actually owns my car?

Relentless81 · 8 Nov 2010 at 14:51

[TW]Fox;17743171 said:
I dont think anyone would consider that worth the effort

I knew it was coming, but I still posted

NathanE · 8 Nov 2010 at 14:57

[TW]Fox;17743095 said:
Nobody was has been as wrong as you since the last time MikeHiow pressed the power button on his computer.

Do you have a newsletter Fox? As I would like to subscribe to it.

Larry365 · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:01

[TW]Fox;17743095 said:
Nobody was has been as wrong as you since the last time MikeHiow pressed the power button on his computer.

Sorry, I've just done a little research and you are right, I was wrong. You can't de-register your vehicle; which also means you cant be the rightful owner either.

Wicksta · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:05

What about if you export a car then Larry?

Janesy B · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:06

Larry365 said:

Please see the below link for my take on that video.

Burnsy2023 · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:08

Larry365 said:
Sorry, I've just done a little research and you are right, I was wrong. You can't de-register your vehicle; which also means you cant be the rightful owner either.

You are basing this on a lot of flawed assumptions. I've read a reasonable amount of 'Freeman' literature and it's comical.

The DVLA does not own any of the public's vehicles. If they are crushed, they are done so not through ownership rights but through the authority of statute.

Larry365 · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:13

Wicksta said:
What about if you export a car then Larry?

Well I'm assuming with logic that you are then no longer the registered keep and you sell the right of being the registered keeper for what ever the car is worth. The DVLA then have no rights over that car as it is no longer in the country of which they have power.

Look, I'm not trying to argue here. I'm not wrong in what I am saying. Is it that a hard a concept to grasp? Please just research it yourself, I'm not very good at putting my thoughts down in writing and don't want to be labelled as the the nutter of overclockers

Burnsy2023 · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:15

Larry365 said:
Look, I'm not trying to argue here. I'm not wrong in what I am saying. Is it that a hard a concept to grasp?

You are wrong. This is all based on not understanding law and flawed assumptions.

Larry365 said:
Please just research it yourself

I have. You're still wrong

DM · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:16

But its not the right of anything you sell, you sell the car. I cant see whats complicated there.

Larry365 · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:19

Ok, I give up.

ubersonic · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:19

In Soviet Russia, Car owns you!

Biohazard · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:20

The reason they have to have legal ownership is so that they can legally remove the vehicle from you. If the vehicle was your own private property then no one can take it, its yours and taking it from you would be theft. By registering as a keeper, you give up title ownership and enter into a contract where you are merely the keeper of the car.

Biohazard · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:20

Burnsy2023 said:
You are wrong. This is all based on not understanding law and flawed assumptions.

I have. You're still wrong

Amazing evidence there.

I'm totally convinced.

[TW]Fox · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:24

Biohazard said:
The reason they have to have legal ownership is so that they can legally remove the vehicle from you. If the vehicle was your own private property then no one can take it, its yours and taking it from you would be theft. By registering as a keeper, you give up title ownership and enter into a contract where you are merely the keeper of the car.

Complete and utter rubbish.

Burnsy2023 · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:24

Biohazard said:
The reason they have to have legal ownership is so that they can legally remove the vehicle from you.

They do not need ownership to seize the vehicle. Like I said, the authority is given through statute.

Biohazard said:
If the vehicle was your own private property then no one can take it, its yours and taking it from you would be theft.

The reason that seizing a vehicle on private property is rare is that most of the legislation requires it to be in a public place, not that private property has special 'rights'.

Biohazard said:
By registering as a keeper, you give up title ownership and enter into a contract where you are merely the keeper of the car.

Rubbish. Show me this contract.

Janesy B · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:26

Biohazard said:
The reason they have to have legal ownership is so that they can legally remove the vehicle from you. If the vehicle was your own private property then no one can take it, its yours and taking it from you would be theft. By registering as a keeper, you give up title ownership and enter into a contract where you are merely the keeper of the car.

Biohazard said:
Amazing evidence there.

I'm totally convinced.

Where's your evidence then? Just explain to me in simple terms, why I have no ownership over the vehicle I have an invoice for?

godinman · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:27

I'd add, who cares who owns it? You still have all the rights of property and stuff.

Fr0dders · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:28

Biohazard said:
The reason they have to have legal ownership is so that they can legally remove the vehicle from you. If the vehicle was your own private property then no one can take it, its yours and taking it from you would be theft. By registering as a keeper, you give up title ownership and enter into a contract where you are merely the keeper of the car.

thats balderdash

So all your illegal drugs are property of the state too then ?

As they'd need to be for the police to sieze them in a raid ???

Think about it, police sieze stuff all the time that they dont own.

MouthBoy · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:32

In soviet russia, the car owns you...

Wicksta · 8 Nov 2010 at 15:34

MrLOL said:
Think about it, police sieze stuff all the time that they dont own.

This.