21-year-old purchases 33rd supercar

[TW]Fox · 9 Nov 2010 at 13:09

Last time I checked oil was not traded in Sterling. 'America' and 'The West' are not the same thing.

Americas influence over oil is hardly a cartel, either. It's probably not particularly healthy but it's not a cartel in its traditional sense whereas OPEC is a textbook example of one.

Biohazard · 9 Nov 2010 at 13:12

[TW]Fox;17750372 said:
Last time I checked oil was not traded in Sterling.

Why the strawman?

I never said it did.

[TW]Fox;17750372 said:
'America' and 'The West' are not the same thing.

For all intents and purposes, when talking about international oil markets and conditions, oh yes it is.

I would also contest that at the best of times anyway.

[TW]Fox;17750372 said:
Americas influence over oil is hardly a cartel, either.

Of course it is? :confused:

Trade in oil or you are invaded? Or at best face economic ambargoes and various other under the table threats?

[TW]Fox;17750372 said:
It's probably not particularly healthy but it's not a cartel in its traditional sense whereas OPEC is a textbook example of one.

Yes it is.

They both are, and they are almost a result of each other.

You obviously think trying to stabalise the price on something that is variable is bad, I don't.

Are you a free market liberal minded nut job too by chance?

[TW]Fox · 9 Nov 2010 at 13:16

Biohazard said:
Why the strawman?

You are not Dolph, so dont try to be.

I never said it did.

You said this:

The west can't have it both ways - you trade in our currency for oil, give us as much as you got as cheaply.

'The west' doesnt have oil traded in its currency. The dollar is not 'our' currency.

Trade in oil or you are invaded? Or at best face economic ambargoes and various other under the table threats?

Oh please? Nobody is 'forced' to sell oil to the Americans. You really are turning into a big conspiracy theorist...

You obviously think trying to stabalise the price on something that is variable is bad, I don't.

Are you neive enough to think OPEC is there to stablise the price?

Supply and demand on its own would stablise the price - but it would stabalise it too low for OPEC :rolleyes:

They restrict supply to increase price.

Barks · 9 Nov 2010 at 13:34

Shouldn't that be daddy purchases 21 year old his 33rd supercar.

Biohazard · 9 Nov 2010 at 13:39

[TW]Fox;17750426 said:
You are not Dolph, so dont try to be.

What's dolph got to do with this? He doesn't have sole rights to argument fallacies does he? It was a strawman none the less.

You are putting assertions into my mouth. I never said anything about sterling.

[TW]Fox;17750426 said:
You said this:.

So our economy isn't heavily reliant or interlinked then to the US and the dollar?

It was loose terminology, but it is still VERY relevent.

[TW]Fox;17750426 said:
Oh please? Nobody is 'forced' to sell oil to the Americans. You really are turning into a big conspiracy theorist...

I meant to say dollar, but it isn't a conspiracy theory.

[TW]Fox;17750426 said:
Are you neive enough to think OPEC is there to stablise the price?

Yes

For them it is set against exchange mechanisms. So they have to have their own preventative measures.

[TW]Fox;17750426 said:
Supply and demand on its own would stablise the price - but it would stabalise it too low for OPEC

They restrict supply to increase price.[/QUOTE]

To a certain extent, but not completely.

And of course it would stabalise it too low, that's the problem. But oil is still cheap for what it is.

Of course the restric supply to increase price, its all they can do.

Fr0dders · 9 Nov 2010 at 14:05

Biohazard said:
What's dolph got to do with this? He doesn't have sole rights to argument fallacies does he? It was a strawman none the less.

you do sound a bit like a mini dolph in the same way Janesy used to sound like a mini fox

Biohazard · 9 Nov 2010 at 14:09

MrLOL said:
you do sound a bit like a mini dolph in the same way Janesy used to sound like a mini fox

Ok ok, I do know what you are saying.

but there isn't any other way to do it.

I used to hate when cbs,dolph virii and DD etc all used to have 'latin' battles.

But after so long, you get fed up typing out the long and short of the logical corruption and it just because easier to throw 'strawman' or what ever fallacy at each other.

You'd think critising argument was a registered trade mark of others.

Relentless81 · 9 Nov 2010 at 14:12

More fool him, he doesnt have an EK9

GinG · 9 Nov 2010 at 14:14

To be honest I was more intrigued by this story:

http://swns.com/authorities-investigating-how-asian-male-boarded-flight-as-old-white-man-051400.html

Fr0dders · 9 Nov 2010 at 14:16

Biohazard said:
I used to hate when cbs,dolph virii and DD etc all used to have 'latin' battles.

You're starting to become them .....

Biohazard · 9 Nov 2010 at 14:23

MrLOL said:
You're starting to become them .....

Fight fire with fire though, and when you deal with that a lot of the time you can't help it when it seeps through into your own style.

Repetition I suppose.

Smokey26 · 9 Nov 2010 at 14:33

Relentless81 said:
More fool him, he doesnt have an EK9

Obviously not, he's a rich arab with no taste.

Joshy · 9 Nov 2010 at 18:50

At the risk of being labelled a "h8r", it's not exactly a "collection" is it?

It's some bloke buying a bunch of trendy and expensive cars.

"Ferrari aficionado". No F40? No 355? No 288GTO? No Daytona? No Racing models? You'd have thought an "aficionado" would have a few examples of some of Ferrari's greatest cars, wouldn't you? Many of the cars on his list "duplicate" the function of each other, and in my opinion. A normal Gallardo AND a Superleggera? TWO Range Rovers, a X5, A X6, A G55 AND a Cayenne Turbo? Seriously, why?

I know, I know, "Because he can", but I can't help but think it is an absoultely massive waste. You have the finances available to create a truly stunning collection of interesting cars and he just buys a load of predicable supercars that show wealth and expects it to be labelled as a "collection". Well done, you can spend daddy's money, congratulations.

I guess I generally just hate when a car is appreciated more as a status symbol rather than a product of engineering and "passion".

I know I've just came off as being massively jealous, but I can hand on heart say that I'm not (that

) jealous.

[TW]Fox · 9 Nov 2010 at 18:51

He isnt interested in cars he's interested in status, prestige and bling. He isn't a car enthusiast he's just a guy with a load of cash who likes fast cars.

Westyfield2 · 9 Nov 2010 at 19:04

Fair play to him

. Someone's got to keep spending to keep the economy going!

Will Gill said:
my point is the source of their wealth will soon be at an end, then they will be left with nothing but a dustbowl.

I'd say that Arab oil has got a fair while left yet...

fiveub · 9 Nov 2010 at 20:02

I would do the same to be honest, maybe not go through 33 different super cars though, actually forget it, yes I would.

adriano_8 · 9 Nov 2010 at 21:44

I think it's the fact he's 21 so he was born after the birth of the Ferrari F40, the most recent classic supercar. I think, because of his age, it's about having the newest and flashest - he's got plenty of time (and money) to move into the classic movement when he sees fit. Maybe he'll become a second-string Sultan of Brunei!

It must be brilliant to have Ferrari ringing you up telling you what's coming next and being offered the first or the last of a product range.

He'll undoubtedly be getting an F70 as well when that arrives - must be in the next couple of years I imagine.

Lucky, lucky lad