Rioting in London?
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If they're that interested in the subject, interested enough to pay the current fees, why do they not want to work in that subject? I've yet to meet anyone who's doing a degree with no intention of using it.
Also, why should the country's tax money be used to pay for someone's degree who has no plan on making good use of that degree later on?
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If it wasn't for the government involvement in the first place we wouldn't be in this situation where we have to take ridiculous state subsidised student loans to be able to get a worthless piece of paper.
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She's busy at the minute
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/video/2010/nov/10/nick-clegg-higher-education
Still, great work from the protesters, solidarity from Newcastle!
Unfortunately it's true. Degrees aren't special anymore. A lot of employers don't care if you have one or not. Experience counts more these days.
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These changes are indiscriminate between subjects. What do you mean by value, anyway?
She's busy at the minute
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/video/2010/nov/10/nick-clegg-higher-education
Because Labour never introduced Top Up fees, or planned to do something along the same, lines, of course... And Harperson's words are hollow, she has no plan to offer, and this was all agreed cross-party.
Nice bit of history: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3434329.stm
Agreed, will quickly sort them out. A load of buses went from my Uni (Strathclyde). They have no reason to be going, suggests to me they just fancied a bit of rioting and/or a free trip to London.
Haven't they got essays to be doing?
In certain, more trivial subjects yes. Try walking into a research pharameutical company with just a-levels and asking for a job, then tell me degrees are worthless.
That was Hazel Blears
Hahahaha.
Make sure she has her 'rocking the boat' brooch on.
hahaa
That would be one way to get rid of her.
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Because Labour never introduced Top Up fees, or planned to do something along the same, lines, of course... And Harperson's words are hollow, she has no plan to offer, and this was all agreed cross-party.
Nice bit of history: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3434329.stm
Because Blair's Labour wasn't Labour?
Value added then. The positive externalities created by the subject if you want to get technical. Where the social benefits out weigh the private cost.
An example of a 'waste of subject' is doing a form of Art degree if you are male. Statistically you will be earning less than if you left education after A-level.
That's why I was careful to say "a lot of employers" rather than all of them.
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When did I suggest they wouldn't want to work in their subject? The problem is that some degrees aren't as valuable as others. A maths graduate has far, far better employment prospects than an English graduate, for example, so a maths degree is more valuable to the individual, but both are equally valuable to society.
These changes encourage people only to pick degrees that will lead to personal financial benefits.
You're making the assumption that "good use" of a degree equates to a high-paying job.
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NEWS FLASH!!!!
David Cameron hass contacted Nick Clegg, the details are just coming in..........
Mr Cameron says he has a solution picked up from the Chinese on how to deal with protesting students.
What, sending tanks to be stopped in their tracks by a protester?
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Yeah but...
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What a load of tripe. it's only worthless if you don't need it. There are plenty of situations where it is necessary to hold formal qualifications - particularly in the professions (medicine and law for example).
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What a load of tripe. it's only worthless if you don't need it. There are plenty of situations where it is necessary to hold formal qualifications - particularly in the professions (medicine and law for example).