Rioting in London?

lunarwolf said:
glad to see that students give a damn. education is and should be a basic human right in the UK.

bailing out irresponsible banks and making students pay cannot be a good thing.
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It is?? Everyone legally can have an education.
 
Biohazard said:
So why did you say 2005 general election then?

I have never heard of this happening in my life.

They are one and the same party. They cannot run against each other in Scotland.

People can't say 'that was Blair's Labour' and walk away from it still flying the red flag.

Labour supported Blair and his ideas through thick and thin, now its turn coat time.
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I mentioned it because there was a Labour member on the ballot paper but he was listed as the Speaker not actually Labour. Well it did happen, and there is no reason why it won't happen again as they aren't the same party. They have and can run against each other in Scotland.
 
They are, and no they can't not for GE and not for Scottish elections.

Not for anything.

New Labour = SLP = Labour.

They all sing from the same hym sheet (depending if HQ down south allows numpty Gray)
 
Oh sorry, I guess that I was off my face on drugs and didn't actually see the two parties on my ballot paper in 2009 and 2010. The SLP was set up in 1996, it has different members, different headquarters, but of course they must be the same as the Labour Party.
You're crazy.
 
Bizarre posts in here lately!

Education is free, higher education is free, graduate education is neither free nor required for the majority of jobs people will do. Naff degrees cheapen the degree system and should be abolished, with worthwhile degrees being subsidised but not heavily.
 
Klo said:
It is?? Everyone legally can have an education.
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1. if it isn't then it needs to be in a modern civilized society

2. legality isn't the issue. it needs to be accessible, therefore increasing the price is OTT. if only the well to do can get to uni then it isn't very accessible - accessibility to higher education should be based on academic achievements. about +£40k to pay out for school is very expensive for some. it's much higher costs than Germany or France.
 
Ahleckz said:
Oh sorry, I guess that I was off my face on drugs and didn't actually see the two parties on my ballot paper in 2009 and 2010. The SLP was set up in 1996, it has different members, different headquarters, but of course they must be the same as the Labour Party.
You're crazy.
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You are off your face or lying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Labour_Party

Scottish Labour was setup in 1996?

You are sure sounding pretty confused to me.

One is a subsiduary of the other, why does this not compute?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Labour_Party_(disambiguation)

Wiki said:
The Scottish Labour Party is the part of the Labour Party (UK) which operates in Scotland.
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But I guess your still right?

roflchops.

Scottish Labour supporters. LOL.

SLP always has been and always will be a puppet with strings that are pulled from London.

THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME! \o/
 
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Biohazard said:
You are off your face or lying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Labour_Party

Scottish Labour was setup in 1996?

You are sure sounding pretty confused to me.

One is a subsiduary of the other, why does this not compute?
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Oh Biohazard, you've just made yourself look very silly. Go back and read my posts, and you'll notice I was speaking about the Socialist Labour Party. Not the Scottish Labour Party. Bless, you're adorable.
PS, please don't insult me by suggesting I'm a Labour (be that The Labour Party, The Socialist Labour Party or Scottish Labour) supporter.
 
Again nonsense

scorza said:
Yes I see the similarities between these new student loans and mortgages, the sort of money you'll end up repaying, the redemption penalties, the length of the term. And people seriously don't think having to take out a second mortgage to get a degree will put people off?
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You repay it at a percentage of incomke over a threshold. If you meet the threshold then you pay. I f you don't you don't pay. There's no need at all to obtain a second mortgage to repay it. You just need to have discipline to ensure you meet the burden of repayment.

This level of education is elective and it's an individual's choice to incur debt if at all. Why not just get a jobe and work through the degree, and in the summer break etc. A significant amount of deferral of the costs of borrowing can be me thtis way. Then the total amount owed at the end is significantly reduced, and the burden significantly lessened.

It's all about personal choice. If the degree and assocaited costs are not for an individual then don't incur the debt.

Very simple cost-benefit analysis.
 
I guess anyone stupid enough to kick windows through and set fire to stuff on the street is too stupid too go to university to be honest, the actual fee shouldn't be an issue to them anyway as they should be rejected due to a lack of intelligence.

I hope everyone of them end up with criminal records, doubt it though.
 
And another thing

scorza said:
Yes I see the similarities between these new student loans and mortgages, the sort of money you'll end up repaying, the redemption penalties, the length of the term. And people seriously don't think having to take out a second mortgage to get a degree will put people off?
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If some people are put off from commencing a course of study then good.

This saves money contributed by the taxpayer to fund the bulk of the cost of a course of study by a student and means that the individual has decided not to incur unnecessary debt.
 
LOAM said:
I guess anyone stupid enough to kick windows through and set fire to stuff on the street is too stupid too go to university to be honest, the actual fee shouldn't be an issue to them anyway as they should be rejected due to a lack of intelligence.

I hope everyone of them end up with criminal records, doubt it though.
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Nah, they will still go to university, they'll just do one of those faux degrees like a degree in American Media History concerning Comedy and Post-Modern Canvas Art.
 
Can I suggest that if people want to post their views, which are mainly against or for free University education, they also state whether they have been to University or not?

Looks to me like to people that never went are mainly against free education and vice versa.
 
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