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Fermi Unreliable?

Freakbro

Freakbro

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I've built my own (and friends) machines for a few years now and never really had any problems with gfx cards before. Yea, ofc the odd one has died after a few years use just like any component, but I seem to be having nothing but problems with these gtx 470's.

Also, I have seen on these forums quite a few posts about rma'd fermi's (not just the specific issue with palit OC 580's) over the last few months.

Would you say this is just normal with new generation cards or does it seem an unusual amount?

We all know Nvidia had problems with the wafer manufacture, which is why they were delayed initially anyway....I was just wondering if they ran the batches in the end with a low success rate just because they had to get it released.

I have so far had 4 MSI GTX 470's (2 for my SLI and 1 for friends machine) and it has been :

Card 1 - Crashing with display driver error (RMA'd)
Card 2 - Terrible overclocker and runs hot - couldnt even get stable at 750 clock - at 700 it needed 1025mv
Card 3 - Runs fine
Card 4 - The replacement for Card 1 - just died last night in under 2 weeks :(

Am I just being unlucky or are these cards flakier than usual....
 
Sounds like a crap batch of msi cards to be honest mind u I always strip a card down when I buy it and apply mx3 manufactures tim is crap

I went for the overclockers value cards I can get 875 core 2000 mem @ 1.125 v

These fermi cards are great cards not had any problems with them and have been really impressed how the series overclocks heat not great but who cares I play games not bench hell out of them

Have used the 450 460 and 470 sli so now time for 580 sli once prices drop a little
 
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I think you've been unlucky there Freakbro, ive had msi 470 and other 470's allways had them running at 750 core 1v as standard and never had a problem.
If you are unlucky i'd suggest getting evga or zotac purely for the 10 or 5 year warranty.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
When you buy a GF100 fermi make sure you have decent case cooling or you're asking for problems.
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Well I'm using an Antec 1200 (3 intake fans, 2 rear exhaust + top 200mm fan) with 2 x 120mm Scythe GT's inside the case blowing into the end of the cards...

apart from WC not much more I can do with air to cool em ;)

I do suffer a little with the P6X58D-E and the 2 pci-e slots being so close, the top card does get blocked by the 2nd....but even so while benching (heaven etc) or gaming it doesnt go above 80*c and the bottom card ~72*c - so I dont think its heat being an issue
 
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I hear them antic spot cool fans are very good if you position into the needed area
Just ordered 1 myself
 
GJ02 said:
I hear them antic spot cool fans are very good if you position into the needed area
Just ordered 1 myself
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Yea, I saw those yesterday - was looking at getting one as well, and maybe a backplate for the top card.

But, like I say, Its not heat being an issue to the problems above, I just wondered if people thought there had been more "my fermi card is dud" posts than usual on new card releases :)
 
Was thinking of sli 470's myself
I'm in the same position as you with the pci e slots
Back plates on the bottom wouldn't work because of the spacing I'm assuming ?
 
GJ02 said:
Was thinking of sli 470's myself
I'm in the same position as you with the pci e slots
Back plates on the bottom wouldn't work because of the spacing I'm assuming ?
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Thats what im assuming too, was only looking to do the top card as the space is only a few mil

I just want one that works, overclocks and doesn't blow up in a week! is that too much to ask? :p
 
TBH I've hardly seen any fermi is dud posts, if there is a plethora of dodgy fermi card threads, link to them because I can't find more than a few.
 
Yeah I haven't read that much about dodgy GF100 cards and mine has had zero issues whatsoever. In fact there was far more problems when GTX280 was launched with all the overheating malarky. Furmark and 105C in seconds. :D
 
Pallits antics aside there's not been to many issues, you might just be getting unlucky.

Did you check the cards to ensure they haven't just sent the same ones back to you? :D
 
Ok, I may have been a little premature with saying this card had died - it did occur late last night and only had chance to do some diagnosis now... (Though I still had the trouble with the other cards.)

What happened :

I had just dl the update to World of Tanks, loaded the game, and was tinkering with the new graphic settings (hadn't applied anything )when the pc locked up solid and the left screen switched off. (Im using 3 screens with nvidia surround)

I had to reboot, and the left screen was still "no signal" and the machine wouldnt boot into windows, just the middle screen full of flashing artifacts... not good :mad:

Rebooted again, got into windows, but could only use 2 screens (the ones connected to the bottom card) in fact device manager/afterburner etc said I only had 1 gfx card - hence why i assumed the top card had died.

So, ive just come to test it today, and ofc both cards work fine on their own :confused:

After trying them in each pci-e slot with each set of power connectors they are both fine...slot them back in with sli and I could only activate 2 screens - even in extend mode (not surround) it crashed when I tried to activate the 3rd screen.

So I have now re-installed the 260.99 drivers , using the clean out first option, and now its all working again - 3 screens and surround :confused:

Have played WoTanks fine now as well......any idea's why the drivers would have corrupted (if thats what it was ) and even device manager only showed 1 card?
 
Freakbro said:
I've built my own (and friends) machines for a few years now and never really had any problems with gfx cards before. Yea, ofc the odd one has died after a few years use just like any component, but I seem to be having nothing but problems with these gtx 470's.

Also, I have seen on these forums quite a few posts about rma'd fermi's (not just the specific issue with palit OC 580's) over the last few months.

Would you say this is just normal with new generation cards or does it seem an unusual amount?

We all know Nvidia had problems with the wafer manufacture, which is why they were delayed initially anyway....I was just wondering if they ran the batches in the end with a low success rate just because they had to get it released.

I have so far had 4 MSI GTX 470's (2 for my SLI and 1 for friends machine) and it has been :

Card 1 - Crashing with display driver error (RMA'd)
Card 2 - Terrible overclocker and runs hot - couldnt even get stable at 750 clock - at 700 it needed 1025mv
Card 3 - Runs fine
Card 4 - The replacement for Card 1 - just died last night in under 2 weeks :(

Am I just being unlucky or are these cards flakier than usual....
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I have had exactly the same with MSI, i've had 2 of the 470 twin frozr II cards, and both had to be RMA'd for refund, were not stable in any games, and were crashing my system.
got a refund, waiting on the new cards now
 
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