Child banned from buying crackers.

I really don't and will never understand why minimum wage retail workers care sooooo much about their job and company. I just, really don't understand. It's like they are brainwashed...
 
2bit said:
Yes but under normal adult supervised conditions... lord knows what damage an unsupervised child could do with a 12 pack.

..not to mention that they could choke on a plastic dice or spinning top.
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Even I would find it difficult to find a way to cause damage with 12 crackers, let alone a child

and a 10 year old choking on a dice? :rolleyes: surely just as likely to choke on that fruit pastel they've just bought
 
rypt said:
The laws were not Labour, but chances are those laws were never intended to be used for cases such as this ... and the spread to things like crackers definitely occurred under Labour.
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it says

The Pyrotechnics Articles (Safety) Regulations introduced in 2010 reinforced laws banning the sale of explosive items to children.

The regulations ban all Under 18s from buying outdoor fireworks – but Under 16s are also banned from buying crackers, novelty matches and indoor fireworks.
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Interesting thing is that if you read the regulations, the items that are restricted from sale to under 16s are "category 1 fireworks"

of which it has this to say

2) For category 1 fireworks, the following conditions must be met—
(a) the safety distance must be at least 1 metre. However, where appropriate, the safety distance may be less;
(b) the maximum noise level must not exceed 120 dB (A, imp), or an equivalent noise level as measured by another appropriate method, at the safety distance;
(c) category 1 must not comprise bangers, banger batteries, flash bangers and flash banger batteries;
(d) throwdowns in category 1 must not contain more than 2.5 mg of silver fulminate.
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The safety distance must be at least 1 metre.

Know anybody with arms longer than 1 metre ??

I dont think these regulations apply to christmas crackers at all. Somebody has just done some stupid reading inbetween the lines. No doubt some H&S idiot at whitehall.
 
Think of the bigger picture Energize.

That child could have easily made an explosive device of considerable power had the mother bought another 20,000 of them ................ ;)
 
MrLOL said:
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Interesting thing is that if you read the regulations, the items that are restricted from sale to under 16s are "category 1 fireworks"

of which it has this to say



The safety distance must be at least 1 metre.

Know anybody with arms longer than 1 metre ??

I dont think these regulations apply to christmas crackers at all. Somebody has just done some stupid reading inbetween the lines. No doubt some H&S idiot at whitehall.
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But that's not necessarily relevant, because he was replying to me and I'd already said I'd seen crackers being "banned" from sale to children a year or two ago. (So no 2010 acts would have been around).
 
It's a cracker!

Sounds like common sense failure to me. Whether or not there's a law against selling them to a minor, there's certainly no law against a minor holding them. The latter is the preserve of Scrooge.
 
I wonder if the shop assistant likes Mr Bean? If anyone has seen Merry Xmas Mr Bean you will remember the scene where he cuts open a few dozen crackers and makes a huge one and the pulls it at the end of the episode.... BWOOOSHHHHH LOL.

Still this ID thing seems a little extreme now, almost like lets crack down on anything and everything until one day you cant even buy a jellybby because it will explode over naked flame! :rolleyes:
 
dmpoole said:
I put this in another thread but it is related -

Last Wednesday I went to our local shop in the hospital to get a bag of crisps.
A bloke in front of me had got a bottle of Mountain Dew and the 2 shop assistants just looked at each other and called a 3rd one over.
One of them said 'He's bought a bottle of Mountain Dew what do we do?'.
The 3rd woman asked him 'Are you over 18? Are you OK with caffeine? OK you can have it"
The rest of us in the shop just looked at each other.
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LMAO awww man... worried about buying a jar of nescafe now lol
 
franco_22 said:
I really don't and will never understand why minimum wage retail workers care sooooo much about their job and company. I just, really don't understand. It's like they are brainwashed...
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Ok the only thing that makes sense is they are brainwashed and fear massively about loosing their job!

or the manager has some really scary video they all watch everyday about the perils of chavs buying cider and exploding jellybabies and suspect bottles of mountain dew lol
 
GoatBotherer said:
I've just started work at M&S and I was told about selling crackers. I don't know if our store is more lax than other stores, but they just asked us to use our judgment when selling restricted items. For example if a middle aged man came in to buy some beers and he was with his 17 year old son I would still happily sell the man his beer as long as he was the one that paid for it. But to be honest I would still sell an 18 year old alcohol if he was stood with 5 other 17 year olds as long as he had the ID and made the transaction (even if one of the underaged guys handed me the goods).

This shop assistant clearly doesn't know what she is talking about. It's obviously fine for a child to hold and even use crackers. It's just the selling of them is not, which doesn't matter in this case because her mother was going to pay for them anyway.
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I was going to reply, then saw this which pretty much summed it up.

I too, work in M&S and the store policy here is exactly the same: Use your judgement. I disagree a little with your second point about 18 year old and 5 17 year olds, but I have never ever come across that situation so I'm not entirely sure how I'd react to it.
 
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