Looking to change my 4870x2.

[dmxdex2020]

My card has finally done my head in enough to make me want to upgrade i suspect its faulty. I would like to give Nvidia a shot. I dont want to spend a lot on a graphics card. what DX11 nvidia card would match or be close to a 4870x2 in peformance?

 

[arc@css]

470 will be a bit under but not by 'that' much. If my 4870x2 died right now then the 470 would most likely be the nvidia card I would choose. Here's one comparison.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/174?vs=160

 

[setter]

+1 for a 470 GTX, then overclock it, for any further signifigant gains, youd be looking at the still pretty expensive 480 GTX.

 

[^Andy^]

470 will be a bit under but not by 'that' much. If my 4870x2 died right now then the 470 would most likely be the nvidia card I would choose. Here's one comparison.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/174?vs=160

I think the 470 would actually comfortably outperform the 4870x2 to be honest mate - and as an added advantage although the 470's do run hot and suck a fair bit of juice it should be nothing compared to the heat and power sucked up by your current card.

Just for info I just replaced a pair of 1gig 4870's in crossfire with a single 6870 card and am very happy with it.

 

[steve258]

Just had a quick go at anandtech performance comparison and the X2 is in between GTX470 and 480. But the GTX580 is just out so if budget allows this is the one I'd get, or you can wait a little while for AMD to bring out 6950/6980/6990 then decide. AMD have been very quiet so far though.

 

[arc@css]

From the reviews I've read, it seems that the 470 runs a tad cooler / quieter than the x2, so if noise / heat from the x2 isn't a major gripe for you then maybe something like this :

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-067-GI&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1810


Or, if noise and heat has been one of the issues :

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-066-GI&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1810

 

[dmxdex2020]

So a 470 would beat my 4870x2? I could get a geforce gtx 295 for 150 from the MM.

 

[setter]

I wouldnt bother with the 295 tbh, old tech now, i came from sli gtx 275s, (pretty comparable to both 4870x2 and 295) to a 470 gtx, slight drop in max fps at stock speed, higher minimum fps, however ive clocked the 470 to 750mhz which has it pulling ahead, got a second 470 coming hopefully tomorrow for sli.

 

[dmxdex2020]

How does the 470 compare to the 5870? I can pick up a second hand 5870 for the price of a 470. I know i said i wanted a change lol but best peformance for price ratio would have to come in.

 

[arc@css]

Imo the benefits would be smoother (only one gpu), better minimum frame rates, less power draw, a 'tad' cooler running (seems funny to mention this as a plus point but it just shows how hot the x2 can run! ), and dx11.

In terms of raw power then it doesn't 'beat' the x2 though there isn't much in it at all. As I'm sure you're well aware, it's not about maximum frame rates. If you're mobo supports sli then you could add another later.

I hadn't thought of the 295 but that is certainly an option though it doesn't have dx11; though would a single 470 carry enough muscle to put out high enough fps with tessellation on? Tbh I doubt it, at least on some of the games we've seen so far.

What's your max budget?

 

[dmxdex2020]

Imo the benefits would be smoother (only one gpu), better minimum frame rates, less power draw, a 'tad' cooler running (seems funny to mention this as a plus point but it just shows how hot the x2 can run! ), and dx11.

In terms of raw power then it doesn't 'beat' the x2 though there isn't much in it at all. As I'm sure you're well aware, it's not about maximum frame rates. If you're mobo supports sli then you could add another later.

I hadn't thought of the 295 but that is certainly an option though it doesn't have dx11; though would a single 470 carry enough muscle to put out high enough fps with tessellation on? Tbh I doubt it, at least on some of the games we've seen so far.

Too be honest im not looking to run games like metro maxed out with full tessalations as it would be pointless

 

[setter]

5870 v's 470 gtx.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/162?vs=160

 

[dmxdex2020]

5870 v's 470 gtx.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/162?vs=160

They trade blows.

 

[arc@css]

^Maximum frame rates only though.

 

[dmxdex2020]

^Maximum frame rates only though.

does the 470 got good minimum fps?

 

[arc@css]

By all accounts from what I've read from other forum members, yes.


Here's just one review (randomly googled), hopefully giving a guide to minimum, as well as maximum frame rates.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...iews/30321-nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-review.html


Here's another, again, completely random.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/03/28/nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-1-1280mb-review/1

 

[dmxdex2020]

By all accounts from what I've read from other forum members, yes.

Here's just one review (randomly googled), hopefully giving a guide to minimum, as well as maximum frame rates.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...iews/30321-nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-review.html


Here are others, again, completely random.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/03/28/nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-1-1280mb-review/1

Crysis seems to get mixed reviews everywere you look. Some show it running well in the 40s others show it running in the 30s. Just one for DX 11 doesnt run well lol. For DX 11 you need another 1 or 2.

 

[arc@css]

I'll see if I can dig up some other reviews.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/3203/nvidia_geforce_gtx_470_video_card_tested/index.html

 

[Gerard]

I wouldnt bother with the 295 tbh, old tech now,.

Maybe so but dx11 benefits are reserved for games built from the ground up for it and thats a good while off yet. So far the implementation of it in games has been tacked on crap and not much more =/

That being said would be a bit odd for the op to go from one dx10 card to another with the budget for a dx11 card.

 

[dmxdex2020]

Maybe so but dx11 benefits are reserved for games built from the ground up for it and thats a good while off yet. So far the implementation of it in games has been tacked on crap and not much more =/

That being said would be a bit odd for the op to go from one dx10 card to another with the budget for a dx11 card.

Like i said i dont fancy getting a single card that has less peformance than my 4870x2 use to give me. D11 is pointless too me. It eats up cards. Ideally you need 2 or 3 cards to get good fps with DX 11 on. The 470 is temping. I could add another in a few months aswell.