Do you recognise these student rioters?

Not sure why everyone is slamming the NUS... it's hardly their fault that a few nutters tagged along and ruined an otherwise peaceful demonstration.
A few?!?!

Heaven forbid that the NUS takes responsibility for a student demonstration they organised that went wrong causing harm to people and property.

The NUS badly misjudged things and in a rush to flex their political muscles managed to lose any public sympathy there was with their case in one fell swoop. In a fit of peake and naive political manoeuvring they've managed to set back the case for why the average working class tax payer should pay to educate these academic "elites" than the government ever could have.

I expect someone to be along with "the ring leaders were planted by the establishment to discredit the genuine peaceful protest of poor hard done by students" any time now...

If the NUS has any credability left it should be issuing a statement saying it stands fully behind the police investigation into identifying and prosecuting rioters.
 
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And that has what to do with the case in point...

In this case nothing with regards to the riots, but it does have plenty to do with the fact that they are protesting the fee rises for the wrong reasons
(I'm a student, and support the Tories but see the fee rises as the wrong way to change the system)
 
that guy that drove onto the curb outside a nightclub somewhere near here was charged with attempted murder, not sure I see the difference. Throwing a heavy fire extinguisher from a multi storey building into a dense crowd, killing someone should have been an easily expected outcome. If it had hit anyone fully it likely would have killed them. Not sure how it could be questioned that it's attempted murder, given that the driving up onto the curb was.
 
Well the police cannot arrest people over imaginary laws.

er, we know ... you do understand the difference between arrest, charge and conviction don't you?

We are talking here about what they are going to try and charge him with. And how it won't stick.

Who cares what he got arrested for? Probably just a section 5 ..
 
He wasn't attempting to murder anyone. And there is no such crime as 'attempted manslaughter'. It'd get laughed out of court.

That's not entirely correct. There in theory exists provisions to secure a conviction of attempted manslaughter though I'm uncertain if it's ever actually been used.

Edited to add - In theory.
 
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He wasn't attempting to murder anyone..
How do you know that? Are you seriously suggesting a so called intelligent student didn't think dropping a weighty solid metal fire extinguisher on a policeman from 20 stories up would kill him?

Perhaps he just dropped it on them to help put ot the fires maybe?
 
er, we know ... you do understand the difference between arrest, charge and conviction don't you?

We are talking here about what they are going to try and charge him with. And how it won't stick.

Who cares what he got arrested for? Probably just a section 5 ..

I was merely pointing out that the charge is possible, while you were making out it was complete fantasy.
 
I'm surprised that some of those pictured in the Telegraphs rioting shots are even students.

By the look of some of their attire (which is appalling even by student standards) and judging by the small distance between some of their eyes, they were probably just every day scum who got involved for the opportunity of being a nob.
 
How do you know that? Are you seriously suggesting a so called intelligent student didn't think dropping a weighty solid metal fire extinguisher on a policeman from 20 stories up would kill him?

If he did it knowing it could kill someone it would be manslaughter. If he did it hoping it would kill someone it would be murder.
 
We all saw the pictures of his smug face with the fire extinguisher, he then spent time looking at the crowd of police below before throwing it off the roof towards them.

Not sure what the debate is here? Attempted murder is exactly what the police should be pushing for!
 
We all saw the pictures of his smug face with the fire extinguisher, he then spent time looking at the crowd of police below before throwing it off the roof towards them.

Not sure what the debate is here? Attempted murder is exactly what the police should be pushing for!

And presumably some kid that throws a firework on a bonfire, that then shoots off in random direction missing everyone but could have killed a baby that was there, he should also be done with 'attempted murder'?? Especially if he had a 'smug face'?

:/
 
And presumably some kid that throws a firework on a bonfire, that then shoots off in random direction missing everyone but could have killed a baby that was there, he should also be done with 'attempted murder'?? Especially if he had a 'smug face'?

:/

He threw a fire extinguisher from the top of a building ON TO a group of people. He clearly intended for it to hit someone, if a Fire Extinguisher hits you on the head from the top of a building, you will most likely die.

Stop defending him, he needs to be locked up. Nutcase.
 
He threw a fire extinguisher from the top of a building ON TO a group of people. He clearly intended for it to hit someone, if a Fire Extinguisher hits you on the head from the top of a building, you will most likely die.

Stop defending him, he needs to be locked up. Nutcase.

He SHOULD be locked up. It should be for the right charge.
 
And presumably some kid that throws a firework on a bonfire, that then shoots off in random direction missing everyone but could have killed a baby that was there, he should also be done with 'attempted murder'?? Especially if he had a 'smug face'?

:/

If that kid throws a firework into a bonfire surrounded by the public on purpose, then yes, quite happily :)
 
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