Europe to be a Muslim majority in our lifetime?

[AtticusFinch]

Obvious really

If you are referring to the Muslim protesters with the placards, I think I am correct in saying they were not arrested at the time only after video evidence was reviewed.

Why was that, the evidence was pretty clear to the majority at the time.

The video evidence is clearer, capable of analysis before charges are laid and enables police to determine exactly who did what, without having to do so on the basis of the sometime flawed perceptions of eyewitnesses including the police.

 

[Cosimo]

So we've established Greebo is an idiot. Labrat was kind enough to drop by and remind everyone he is an idiot. I think also one or two new idiots decided to declare themselves.

Successful thread!

Depends on your definition of successful.

 

[Danthus]

The video evidence is clearer, capable of analysis before charges are laid and enables police to determine exactly who did what, without having to do so on the basis of the sometime flawed perceptions of eyewitnesses including the police.

There are two people in that picture with placards calling for beheading and a massacre.

I am not sure what sort of review that really requires.

 

[Vonhelmet]

to Christianity, most of as are Christians, BUT... How often we pray/go to church,etc?

Most of us are not Christians. The idea is absurd.

Christianity slowly disappearing imo...less people go to church, more Christian sects to make money...

Huh?

 

[RDM]

Huh?

He seems to have some strange ideas about religion, especially if he really thinks Judaism is the third main religion as there are quite a few above it. Christianity also has quite a few more adherents than Islam and comparing Chrstianity in Britain and extrapolating it to the rest of the world is rather foolish.

 

[Werewolf]

If you are referring to the Muslim protesters with the placards, I think I am correct in saying they were not arrested at the time only after video evidence was reviewed.

Why was that, the evidence was pretty clear to the majority at the time.

You are of course aware that the Police do that quite often, rather than go in mob handed into a demo to get people (potentially turning it violent, and still not getting the people they want), they'll have their own camera and intelligence teams to allow them to record the faces of the people breaking the law, and follow it up.

IIRC it's been part of the policing of demos, and football matches etc since the 80's, and I think was implemented in part because when they did go in in force to catch people in "relatively" peaceful demos it often caused problems (and they then got the blame for escalating the situation)

 

[Greebo]

So we've established Greebo is an idiot. Labrat was kind enough to drop by and remind everyone he is an idiot. I think also one or two new idiots decided to declare themselves.

Successful thread!

Hey I resent that! I posted the video as a way of starting a discussion. Of course, a few racists came out of the woodwork and the the video contained some very questionable use of statistics but that doesn't make me an idiot.

Please keep your personal insults to yourself in future.

Thanks

 

[Yas786]

I'm seriously starting to get sick of hearing about this filthy breed all the time. It's always 'Muslims offended by XXXXX' or 'Muslims desecrate XXXXX'.

If anyone hasn't noticed they breed like rabbits, i've never seen one Letterbox Lady with less than 3 kids, usually it's about 5 as opposed to a white or black person. People take into account that THEY will have to raise the children by WORKING therefore are wise and wait till they're older and have secured a good paying job before having them, not relying on the state and me to pay for their needs.

The numbers have been blown out of proportion but you only need to look around you and realise that this is infact slowly happening.

Wow just wow...its people like you and Labrat with your mindsets that are the most dangerous type of people...people who dont use bombs but use words to spread their hatred/intolerance throughout the population...i have no fear of being bombed or killed by a fellow muslim terrorist...what i fear most is people like you, who are the future generation of this country will totally and utterly ruin this country and definitely create a much larger divide than there is now.

I'm not scared of Muslim's anyway, I'm more scared of what bigotry and intolerance is doing to this country than whether my neighbour attends a mosque or wears a burka.

+1

 

[Dutch Guy]

I did check a few facts and it would indeed appear that Netherlands will be the first Western European country to have a muslim majority.

Propably yes, go to some parts near Amsterdam and 95% is muslim, you almost need to wear a Burka otherwise you stand out like a sore thumb, but sales of satellite dishes is on the up, lol

Most people are just too scared to say what they really think about this though (or it's something else)

The more statistics you hear the more depressing it is, I heard some criminality (is that a word) statistics recently that highlighted that a huge percentage of muslim youth has been in contact with the police compared to natives.
And it's almost a weekly news item of bus drivers being beaten up by muslim scum that doesn't want to pay for the trip and assault the driver if he comments.

 

[Abraham]

Most people are just too scared to say what they really think about this though (or it's something else)

It couldn't just be that they don't care?

 

[AtticusFinch]

It's obvious

There are two people in that picture with placards calling for beheading and a massacre.

I am not sure what sort of review that really requires.

There's more than tweo people there, lots is happening all at the same time. The video allows a clear dispassionate review of the entire situation, if it has sound it can allow the reviewer to determine who was saying what etc.

The video is a compltely impartial record. It just makes sense to use it.

 

[AtticusFinch]

I don't understand why it is perceived as a negative thing that there would be a muslim majority anyway?

 

[RDM]

I don't understand why it is perceived as a negative thing that there would be a muslim majority anyway?

Because the legal and cultural systems we have in place may then alter to support that majority in ways that non-muslims may find overly restrictive? Having, for the most part, successfully moved away from one imported middle eastern religion I would rather not then supplant it with another imported middle eastern religion. Bacon is just too damn tasty to let go without a fight.

 

[Dutch Guy]

I don't understand why it is perceived as a negative thing that there would be a muslim majority anyway?

You're kidding right?

Unemployment and crime figures are much higher for muslims, yet they keep on breeding more and more, kids don't go to school, don't learn the language, can't find jobs because of that and as such becaome a big nuisance as they have nothing to do and start comitting crimes to get some money.

Can you name a positive thing about a muslim majority?

 

[Cosimo]

It couldn't just be that they don't care?

They just say it behind closed doors.

 

[Abraham]

They just say it behind closed doors.

say what?

 

[Dutch Guy]

say what?

A lot of people don't voice their views out of fear that they will be judged badly as they say something bad about a 'vulnerable minority group'

Whenever muslims (maroccan youths mostly in The Netherlands) are in the news they never come out and say that a bunch of maroccan kids molested a busdriver but always 'lightly coloured skin' or people from a North African country

 

[Danthus]

There's more than tweo people there, lots is happening all at the same time. The video allows a clear dispassionate review of the entire situation, if it has sound it can allow the reviewer to determine who was saying what etc.

The video is a compltely impartial record. It just makes sense to use it.

Yet the Police could make an instant decision when it came to a member of the EDL.

 

[Abraham]

A lot of people don't voice their views out of fear that they will be judged badly as they say something bad about a 'vulnerable minority group'

Whenever muslims (maroccan youths mostly in The Netherlands) are in the news they never come out and say that a bunch of maroccan kids molested a busdriver but always 'lightly coloured skin' or people from a North African country

That wasn't really the implication of your post that I replied to. It suggested that most people harboured anti muslim views but were too scared to voice them. This is what I was disputing.
There is a certain level of mollycoddling in the UK and I imagine Holland, but mostly the press avoiding legal action or councils etc trying to cover their backs, as it's easier than dealing with the litigation after the act. However there's a vast chasm between tactfully wording something and having anti-muslim views.

Like I said, the majority of people just don't care, they're not voicing anti-muslim views because they haven't got any, not because they're scared.

 

[Yosiah]

It's the percentage of votes cast in a democratic election that matters, not population.