Creatine a bad idea?

Is it really? I never thought this would be true, so in hope of loosing fat, I cut fats out of my diet.

Good fats, not bad saturated ****.

It's also very easy to make up calories with good fats, brilliant when bulking. 100grams of mixed nuts is 600 calories and around 50-60 grams of fat and it's not a massive amount of nuts.
 
Those of you getting cramps are not drinking enough water and the stongest responders are usually veget****ns due to a lack of free creatine in their system. Some people say it does'nt work but loading with sugars and salt usually does the trick.

Creatine all it does put simply (with out going into the Krebs cycle science) is help improve the time in which high intensity activity can occur, we are talking less than 12 seconds. So explosive activities like sprinting, jumping and weightlifting can see improvement. Weight gain is caused by water and carbohydrate retention.

you need to be drinking 500ml of water for every 5g of creatine you consume roughly
 
Some people say it does'nt work but loading with sugars and salt usually does the trick.

Is there any specific source that says its better to have it with carbs?

I remember reading about it couple years ago when I was last taking it, but I opted for the other option, which was to take it in warm water so the creatine dissolves, and I had excellent results from it...
 
Is there any specific source that says its better to have it with carbs?

Indeed there is :)

Pubmed has a ton of research on various supplements.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...nkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed

That specific study shows:
Supplementation resulted in an increase in muscle phosphocreatine (PCr), Cr, and total creatine (TCr; sum of PCr and Cr) concentration in groups A and B, but the increase in TCr in group B was 60% greater than in group A (P < 0.01). There was also a corresponding decrease in urinary Cr excretion in group B (P < 0.001). Creatine supplementation had no effect on serum insulin concentration, but Cr and CHO ingestion dramatically elevated insulin concentration (P < 0.001). These findings demonstrate that CHO ingestion substantially augments muscle Cr accumulation during Cr feeding in humans, which appears to be insulin mediated.
 
if you use creatine to help and build/increase muscle.. then stop using it after a while will you lose this gain (even if you continue to train)?
 
Why would you lose the lean muscle mass?
You might lose some size initially, but that's likely to be water.
 
If you continue to train at the same intensity then theres no reason you should loose any gains from the creatine
 
I don't like Creatine, i just don't like certain characteristics you get from it, the only part i like is the increased rate of power and strength because your Creatine stores are increased so you can train harder. I don't like the fact it dehydrates you so you have to drink more water, and i don't like the idea of the majority of your bulk being made up of water, due to the water retention which can lead to your muscles feeling soft.
 
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A word of advice to anyone wanting to try creatine if youre going to use CEE for the love of all things holy get it in caps or else its like washing down battery acid mixed with that funny acid taste you get after throwing up I managed for a couple of days and then decided I couldnt handle it anymore.
It's the only bad tasting supp I've had to give up on
 
I don't like Creatine, i just don't like certain characteristics you get from it, the only part i like is the increased rate of power and strength because your Creatine stores are increased so you can train harder. I don't like the fact it dehydrates you so you have to drink more water, and i don't like the idea of the majority of your bulk being made up of water, due to the water retention which can lead to your muscles feeling soft.

darn i thought it was to help you build more muscle and not just bulk it up by retaining more water?? How will bigger muscles full of mater help you to lift bigger weights/increase strength?
 
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darn i thought it was help you build more muscle and not just bulk it up by retaining more water??

It does increase muscle and size because you're able to lift more, but the bigger your muscles get, the more water will be retained within your muscles. That's why after a long period of using Creatine, if you stop using it, you will lose some mass as well as some of the intensity you get within your training.
 
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It can help increase lean mass. Just need to be aware that when coming off it you might lose some size due to the water. that doesnt mean you lose lean mass, it means you lose water.
Overall you will have more mass than before :)
 
I had about a an extra half inch on my arms from water when I used monohydrate. This of course dissapeared when I stopped loading/using.
 
darn i thought it was to help you build more muscle and not just bulk it up by retaining more water?? How will bigger muscles full of mater help you to lift bigger weights/increase strength?

You know the short burst you get when you start lifting or doing any exercise and eventually that burst disappears? That burst is Creatine, increasing your Creatine stores enables you to keep that burst going for longer.
 
how long should you use creatine.. to see noticable difference in terms of size and more importantly strength?
 
how long should you use creatine.. to see noticable difference in terms of size and more importantly strength?

Certain types of Creatine require to take a loading phase and then you reduce your consumption and mantain it for a while and stop using it for a month and start it up again, they should have directions on how to use their Creatine supplement efficiently.

If you're after size, eat slow GI carbohydrates such as oats for bulking up. Around 40-60g twice per day should increase the bulk on your arms if you're after size, also EFA's can help with your physique goals as well.
 
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