its a pocket money car. its one of the risks. if it was a genuine low mileage minter with every maindealer stamp going then it would have presumably cost you a lot more.
dodgy car - what to do?
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its a pocket money car. its one of the risks. if it was a genuine low mileage minter with every maindealer stamp going then it would have presumably cost you a lot more.
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[TW]Fox;17823468 said:
I think he means he is a trader posing as a private seller, when ever I phone up about a car advertised as private I do the following :
Say ' I'm phoning up about the CAR for sale ' if he asks which one thats a sure sign he is a trader
Ask if the log book has got his name and address on the logbook and how long he has owned the car.
As allready mentioned if the cars basically ok I wouldnt bother taking it back, when you get into the sub £1000 category it's condition more than anything that affects price.
Could have had the clocks replaced for any number of legitimate reasons.
And yes, a grand is a lot of money in anyone's books, but it's a small amount of money for a car.
On a sub 1000 quid car, you could double the mileage and not really affect the value
And yes, a grand is a lot of money in anyone's books, but it's a small amount of money for a car.
On a sub 1000 quid car, you could double the mileage and not really affect the value
Where do you recommend one buys a Three figure car from then? A franchised dealer?
Not really. I've sold two cars at the same time before. I'm not a trader.
I don't quite understand why people put so much weight into this anyway. You can get a second mobile for a tenner - What's stopping a trader having multiple different phones/numbers for multiple different cars? "He answered knowing instantly I was enquiring about the Ford Mondeo, he can't possibly be a trader"
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Again, in my book it doesn't tell nearly as much as people tend to think it does - "He's only had it 9 weeks, he must be a trader/it must be a dog". Err, no. Maybe he doesn't like it?
I do agree with this however. As long as the bloke hasn't taken the George Michael and shaved 100k off let it go, perhaps with little more than a "polite" conversation with the seller. Preferably face to face
.An honest private seller selling his own car because he has replaced it with a new one.
Not Del Boy.
Good idea, might try that after a few things, this guy needs to be exposed.
Was advised by consumer direct to write a recorded letter to him first asking for refund etc, if that fails (which it will) then will move onto other avenues.
the mileage? around 150k or so difference....
Will contact the cops soon, but not sure if they'll be interested.
because the MOT records show it, along with the state of the car, full of stone chips on the bonnet, worn steering, word interior, was probably a cab car. 'Low mileage' on a low priced car will attract buyers and those who dont know an awful lot about cars like my dad will think its bargain, he probably buys these cars from auction for cheap and then sells them for a couple of hundreds more = profit.
No service history, no past mot paperwork.
Car starts and runs, but clearly has problems at that mileage, tatty bodywork and interior, noisy engine, stiff steering, squealing brakes, clunking noise coming from it, probs bushes, wishbones etc. God knows what else is wrong with it, I had a brief look at the body structure in the afternoon, didnt seem to have any accident damage which is good.
His not happy though, he went and bought the car out of desperation when I broke the news it was a right old lemon, he was devastated, now his stressing which isn't really good at his age and i dont like seeing my father in that state.
There is no way the fraudstar can plead ignorance he makes a living out of doing this. As for the mileage not really legal reasons, but i dont want to give too much away on a public forum, if you get where I am coming from.
Indeed, it's not just about the money but principles, this guys does this for a living and his conning people out of their money, quite frankly he should be stopped and not allowed to get away with it. Who's to say he won't move onto bigger crimes like stolen cars, crash for cash etc.
Yep you got it, he is basically an illegal trader. My guess is he buys the cars from auctions, cheap high mileage cars, he then clocks them, gets rid of any paperwork showing the true mileage and sells on for a profit.
Nope it's nothing innocent, he does this for a living i can tell you that as a fact, i've pieced together exactly what he does, i'll give more info in time.
lol yes he did buy it from some side road! I didn't buy the car, my dad went and bought it against my advice, that type V i posted about a few days ago was miles better!
He doesnt pick up the phones, he could have used a fake name and address, will have to wait and see when the V5 comes back, think his had the car for around a month.
see above.
Aye he falsely advertised the car, i've managed to save his ad's. Will probably try small claims if all else fails.
Will need to look into the whole small claims stuff, but I think it if if everything else fails, if we can get the money back and have the guy prosecuted and stopped from trading then it would be worth it.
I'd like to do more then just that! lol
Doesn't pick up phone, lives in another city, if he was local, he would be getting more then just a face to face conversation
Don't think it's safe to go all the way to him either, people like him usually operate in gangs. I have a feeling someone is doing some of the dirty work for him, if only I had access to the MOT of other cars his sold/selling.
Its not completely uncommon with some vehicles for the odometer to work incorrectly after hitting a certain 6 digit milage so it may or may not be deliberate. I'd be more concerned giving the circumstances tho that it could be stolen or similiar.
So its a 200k car with 50k on it?
Did it not ring alarm bells when you found an old cheap car with low mileage? I mean seriously, unless you've just bought an immaculate 7 Series how could you not noticed it had 200kish on it?
The problem here is that there is no proof the seller clocked the car.
The op is making it sound like the crime of the century, but it really isn't that significant in financial terms. If he's doing it with more expensive cars then I appreciate the desire to see him crash and burn, but it really isn't worth the blood pressure.
Advertise the car for sale with the genuine mileage, say the clocks have been replaced due to a faulty speedo and loose a hundred quid on it. It'll cost you more going down any other route
Advertise the car for sale with the genuine mileage, say the clocks have been replaced due to a faulty speedo and loose a hundred quid on it. It'll cost you more going down any other route
I'd be suprised if it was even him doing it, simply because what is the point? If clocked the car is still so cheap that it isn't even worth 4 figures then where is the profit versus the risk? You'd need to buy really nice condition cars so people didnt notice they were clocked, how many mint condition cars can you get for what, 100-200 quid to make this worth doing!?