Homeless with the kids for Xmas because of bloody mice!

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Just an update from my previous 'mouse in the house' thread. Every day last week produced a multitude of new droppings. All over the kitchen worktops, in cupboards, beds, furniture, window ledges, clothes baskets, you name it. We've caught just three in traps, but as I posted at the end of the last thread the population seemed to just 'explode' and we had to abandon the property.

The landlord's agent called out Rentokill (finally, we reported this in September!), and their guy spent an hour surveying and photographing the house. His opinion is that we are 'severely infested', that the mice number in the dozens, and that they are breeding.

He said that the long-standing disrepair to the property was letting the mice enter, and that until the building is basically gutted and modernised there's no point even trying to tackle the mice in a meaningful way. Even then, he said this will be a 12 visit job, with monthly monitoring after that. With the building work it will take between 18 months and 2 years to even make the house habitable again. Environmental Health are involved the problem is so severe.

They've caused thousands of pounds of damage to our stuff, and we've been told we can't keep or use anything from the house because of the disease risk, so we've literally lost everything. Beds, clothes, shoes, cutlery, crockery, electrical goods, books, toys, everything.

The best bit? Our house insurance won't pay out because the damage was caused by rodents, and the landlord/agent are playing hard ball. We've been sleeping on my mum's floor (myself, partner and three children) and have to declare as homeless to the council on Monday. Joy.

It always seems to happen to us, and always around Christmas. LOL We've ended up with no money, not a possession in the world except literally the clothes on our backs, and we're not having a Christmas this year. All because the landlord didn't get his backside into gear and get the house, and the mice, properly sorted when first requested. It'd be funny if it wasn't so bloody serious. :mad:

Every time we visit the property (which we do daily to check traps, see to the dogs who are living in their kennel/run etc) there are tons more new droppings. The only thing they AREN'T chewing at is the bloody poison bait! :\

Total, complete and utter nightmare. I'll post back when I can, if anything interesting happens. Thanks for reading, I feel better for that. :D

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ugh , sounds really ****

does the landlord not have insurance?

Yeah I'd imagine so, but I'm wondering if they'd even pay. AFAIK the landlord has cover with the same company who refused to pay out on our policy, because "vermin isn't covered". I suppose I could try to claim via his liability clause, as the disrepair has led to the vermin, which led to us losing everything?

I called a solicitor (Rooney's in Liverpool, who are supposed to be suitably aggressive), but they've not returned my call yet. We'll see.
 
Just go rent somewhere else? Surely the main plus point of renting rather than buying it that you can move with no fuss?
 
wow, least you have each other and go rage at the landlord, make him feel 1 inch tall, take your kids and tell him and show him whats hes done to your Christmas.
 
Man, that sounds tragic :(

It's not much, but are any of your kids old enough or interested enough in a guitar to want my old electric? I haven't played it in a couple of years, and it's a bargain jobbie to start with. I suspect the strings will need to be replaced because of the lack of activity, but I have a pack of strings, an amp, a soft bag, a couple of beginner guitar books and possibly the lead if I can find it. Spirit of christmas and all that, if you don't feel bad about accepting charity trust me an address and I'll look for a way to send it up to you.
 
That is absolutely awful...

We had a problem with mice a few months back (I live in a 15th century farm house), but I found that a trap with peanut butter worked an absolute treat. I was catching one every half an hour or so for a couple of weeks (it was horrific), but then one day, they stopped appearing in the trap and all was well.

I don't know why I told you that, it doesn't really help your situation. :o
 
Don't worry - the landlord owes a duty of care to you for this kind of liability if the place is in the sort of disrepair it sounds to be in - and the damage seems pretty obviously causal here. You should therefore be able to claim for any and all reasonable losses.

Just to check - I assume that you informed the landlord at the earliest reasonable opportunity and you didn't do anything that would have encouraged mice to bread like leaving food out regularly?

Make sure to keep receipts for as much as possible between now and when you get sorted out.
 
Just go rent somewhere else? Surely the main plus point of renting rather than buying it that you can move with no fuss?

"No fuss" is a bit of an understatement mate, especially with three children, two dogs, my disabilities and Christmas around the corner. That and having absolutely no possessions to take and make a home with any more.

The agent says they will speak to the landlord who "will probably" release us from the tenancy (too right they will!), but they've been otherwise generally unhelpful and we're not in much of a position to 'walk into' another rental. The agency is still holding our £1,500 deposit and as I said we have no worldly goods left, so we need to speak to the council and try to get something arranged on Monday.
 
Just go rent somewhere else? Surely the main plus point of renting rather than buying it that you can move with no fuss?

Yeah, just go rent somewhere, forget about all your ruined belongings , the fact you have no money, etc
 
Don't worry - the landlord owes a duty of care to you for this kind of liability if the place is in the sort of disrepair it sounds to be in - and the damage seems pretty obviously causal here. You should therefore be able to claim for any and all reasonable losses.

Just to check - I assume that you informed the landlord at the earliest reasonable opportunity and you didn't do anything that would have encouraged mice to bread like leaving food out regularly?

Make sure to keep receipts for as much as possible between now and when you get sorted out.

That's very reassuring fini, thank you. We informed the agency we'd seen mice in the garage (which is attached to the house) as soon as we noticed them, in September this year. They said "Euw, I'm not going in there then!" and didn't action anything. We put down poison, traps (as was said above B&Q traps + peanut butter was a good one), but their numbers exploded.

Pest control's exact words were "With the house in this state, they'll be moving in faster than we can kill them mate." so it was a case of peeing into the wind. We have written reports from Rentokill etc, stating the disrepair is the cause of the infestation and that we've done nothing to cause or aid it. All our food is sealed away, we don't leave food around etc, and have been paying for bait, poison and traps for three months now.
 
Man, that sounds tragic :(

It's not much, but are any of your kids old enough or interested enough in a guitar to want my old electric?

Just seen this. That's exceedingly kind of you to offer mate, thank you, but they're a bit young and 'girly' to make use really. It was a nice sentiment though, thanks. :) I'm not looking for charity, I just needed to vent and seek a bit of advice. Preferably not just stuff about smashing pasties and nuking from orbit etc, though this has clearly already been actioned. Several zombie mice are now in possession of punched ovaries and smashed pasties thanks to the traps. :D

Gotta laugh, haven't you?
 
Surely you can wash your cutlery and crockery. :confused:

What sort of disease risk is this?

Erm, not really. Mice cause things like Salmonella, Leptospirosis, meningitis, encephalitis, Hantavirus... We've been told categorically to consider the house contaminated and to nuke it from orbit. That'd sort the insurance side out I suppose haha

We're not talking "a" mouse here, it's infested. That means mucho urine, and many germs.
 
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Show 'em who's boss!
 
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