Homeless with the kids for Xmas because of bloody mice!

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why didnt you just fill any cavities with chipboard or whatever your self in the first place? stick a bit of filler where the hole are to big that pipes enter the house via...

makes no sense that you left easy stuff
 
why didnt you just fill any cavities with chipboard or whatever your self in the first place? stick a bit of filler where the hole are to big that pipes enter the house via...

makes no sense that you left easy stuff


Let me put a pencil sized hole in your house and you tell me how quickly you notice it!
 
Aye I went back through the thread after posting and saw :p Pretty dire situation.

It's the rats revenge, they are striking back after gathering their forces!

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17971446

haha! I wondered if/when that would come up. An e-cookie to you, sir! :D

why didnt you just fill any cavities with chipboard or whatever your self in the first place? stick a bit of filler where the hole are to big that pipes enter the house via...

makes no sense that you left easy stuff

Rubbish, tbh. I love how some folks bandy about words like "just" and "only" in relation to issues like this. First, it's a rental property. Stuffing chipboard and filler into things constitutes damage to the property and leaves me liable for paying for repair, instead of the other way around.

Second, it's a rental property - meaning I pay someone else to do these things for me.

Third, as you can see from the pic above much of the gaps/holes/problem areas were well hidden, such as behind large radiators and under carpeting etc, which was only discovered when (1) mice were actually seen using them and/or (2) when mice had damaged the area enough to make the holes/gaps underneath visually obvious (eg by peeling back carpeting from the edges of skirting).

Fourth, as I said I'm disabled and I am physically unable of "just" going around a large detached house carrying out all this DIY malarkey even if I wanted to. :p
 
It's blindingly obvious he doesn't want any suggestions, folks. He's made up his mind what he's going to do, which evidently includes throwing away everything, whilst obviously not having the money to replace half of it... :rolleyes:

Attention-seeking thread is attention-seeking.
 
Let me put a pencil sized hole in your house and you tell me how quickly you notice it!

i was refering to the gaping chasm behind the radiator :p

anyway you should try and get a property with a housing asociation in future if you can not afford to buy they look after tenants much better and usually have a hotline for any repair work.

anytime weve had problems an inspector has been out that day and they have contracted repairmen etc so it doesnt cost them a bomb so send someone out which means problems get fixed very fast
 
It's blindingly obvious he doesn't want any suggestions, folks. He's made up his mind what he's going to do, which evidently includes throwing away everything, whilst obviously not having the money to replace half of it... :rolleyes:

Attention-seeking thread is attention-seeking.

You're right, I should have posted in a manner and with intention to get no replies at all. All these attention whores posting up stuff about their life to get replies... attention whores all. :D :rolleyes:

I posted a rant, partly because I'm stressed half to death, and partly because I'd already posted the start of this situation and wanted to update it.

I've "made my mind up" about what? Apart from the fact that we definitely can't go back there, and that we've lost a ton of stuff for various reasons? I didn't post asking advice, I posted as I said to have a rant and get things off my chest. That was clear from the OP, so I don't see your point tbh. If you've nothing constructive to add, off you pop. I've enough to deal with without fielding rolleyes and sarky comments from children up past their bedtime with nothing of real substance to offer even if it is only a 'hard luck mate'.

i was refering to the gaping chasm behind the radiator :p

anyway you should try and get a property with a housing asociation in future if you can not afford to buy they look after tenants much better and usually have a hotline for any repair work.

anytime weve had problems an inspector has been out that day and they have contracted repairmen etc so it doesnt cost them a bomb so send someone out which means problems get fixed very fast

Well tbh, when was the last time you checked your property for any potential invasion sites, bearing in mind the tip of a biro is big enough to get them in? The radiator chasm is at the back of a large radiator and wasn't even noticed (as far as I can remember) until we saw a mouse running out the back of it. Then a bit of lighting and poking about got to the source of the problem. :D
 
It's blindingly obvious he doesn't want any suggestions, folks. He's made up his mind what he's going to do, which evidently includes throwing away everything, whilst obviously not having the money to replace half of it...

Attention-seeking thread is attention-seeking.

It's blindingly obvious you haven't read and injested the whole thread. I have been giving some edjucated advice that Rainmaker can relate to.

i was refering to the gaping chasm behind the radiator

anyway you should try and get a property with a housing asociation in future if you can not afford to buy they look after tenants much better and usually have a hotline for any repair work.

anytime weve had problems an inspector has been out that day and they have contracted repairmen etc so it doesnt cost them a bomb so send someone out which means problems get fixed very fast

Retrospect and circumstance is a great thing ;)
 
I've enough to deal with without fielding rolleyes and sarky comments from children up past their bedtime with nothing of real substance to offer even if it is only a 'hard luck mate'.

Quit being so overly dramatic then. "I've lost everything, even my cutlery!" Come on, you can't make statements like that and not be prepared for a few mild jibes :p

You're going to throw out everything, which seems insane, then moan bitterly about not having money to replace it all.

It's not that I don't have any sympathy for you, it's just that - like others in this thread - I think you're making things worse for yourself than need be, and then milking it on the internet.

I'm sure that sounds harsh, but I don't think it's too far off the mark either.
 
Quit being so overly dramatic then. "I've lost everything, even my cutlery!" Come on, you can't make statements like that and not be prepared for a few mild jibes :p

You're going to throw out everything, which seems insane, then moan bitterly about not having money to replace it all.

It's not that I don't have any sympathy for you, it's just that - like others in this thread - I think you're making things worse for yourself than need be, and then milking it on the internet.

I'm sure that sounds harsh, but I don't think it's too far off the mark either.

And as I and some others have said previously, you'd be singing a very different tune if you were in my shoes. Are you seriously telling us that you'd happily scrape dozens of droppings and pools of urine off your plates and pick them from between the tines of your forks, give them a good rinse and then carry on using them? If you said yes, I'd say you're not speaking from experience.

Most of the relatively little stuff we have/had is indeed ruined, chewed and full of holes, and literally soaked in mouse pee and smeared with droppings etc. I'd call that unsalvagable regardless and as discussed previously even just counting coats, a few pairs of shoes, the destroyed clothes and new beds we're already well onto a £1,000 in damage. That's before we even address anything else. Our toaster now has more droppings on, inside and under it than it does breadcrumbs, ditto the juicer, and microwave.

Please don't tell me you'd be happy to reuse those. I'd rather live on ready meals and beans on toast on paper plates, especially for the kids. If you can't envisage that an infestation on this large a scale has caused a massive amount of damage, I'm not sure what else I can add really.

"Milking it on the internet" is a bit rich, given the situation we're in. We're homeless, living on a floor in an overcrowded house, paying hundreds in bills for a property we can't use, have no access to clothes, usual amenities and our possessions, and a few weeks to Christmas we've spent all our modest savings on extra expenses (extra travel, new cups and cutlery, basic clothing for the kids, a mattress and cover to sleep on, etc etc).

If that's a modest trifle being 'milked' I'd love to see your idea of a really bad situation tbh.
 
Wow man, I really feel for you... That sucks hard, best wishes.

Also have you considered suing the balls off of your landlord? This sounds like it's his fault, I mean I'm sure it's worth having a go with a no win no fee lawyer at least, however much I detest them, lol.

Also the whole thing about abandoning the property and EVERYTHING sounds a bit extreme, I mean really? They're mice not malaria-ridden mosquitos!

Anyways best of luck.
 
I agree with you to an extent FoxEye regarding a slight over dramatisised circumstance but I don't see how Rainmaker is making things worse for himself or his family at all.

FWIW I have heard of peope waking up to a scratching noise thinking they have mice, to a BIG RAT trying to chew their baby's blanket! Rat's do not need a much bigger hole to get in than mice but the perception is very different.


Rainmaker: Jeremy Kyle next?

My landlord charged me extra for 16 baby mice!1!!one~1! :p
 
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Wow man, I really feel for you... That sucks hard, best wishes.

Also have you considered suing the balls off of your landlord? This sounds like it's his fault, I mean I'm sure it's worth having a go with a no win no fee lawyer at least, however much I detest them, lol.

Also the whole thing about abandoning the property and EVERYTHING sounds a bit extreme, I mean really? They're mice not malaria-ridden mosquitos!

Anyways best of luck.

At least mosquitoes only carry malaria! Mice can transmit, amongst other things, salmonella poisoning, leptospirosis, meningitis/encephalitis, hantavirus, Murine typhus, and even Bubonic plague. Admittedly not all of those are common results, but the fact remains that mice can and do transmit a lot of nasty stuff and spread disease wherever they go. Thanks for the kind words. :)

I agree with you to an extent FoxEye regarding a slight over dramatisised circumstance but I don't see how Rainmaker is making things worse for himself or his family at all.

FWIW I have heard of peope waking up to a scratching noise thinking they have mice, to a BIG RAT trying to chew their baby's blanket! Rat's do not need a much bigger hole to get in than mice but the perception is very different.


Rainmaker: Jeremy Kyle next?

My landlord charged me extra for 16 baby mice!1!!one~1!

To be fair, it's only over dramatised if you're sat comfortably in your house impartially reading the interwebs before bed. When it's YOU who's spent a week with no sleep, wondering what your next step is going to be, dealing with a torrent of rodents while you contemplate homelessness it's an entirely different perspective entirely.

It may come across as 'dramatic' but we've literally been forced out of house and home by a deluge of critters. How much extra drama do I really need to add? Any extra 'dramatic' language is an expression of my own emotional worry and the effect of all the crap this week I suppose, not intentional "milking" or "omg look at me". I'm essentially responsible for sorting out a house for the mrs and children, panicking like hell about not ruining their xmas, and trying to deal with the landlord/agency as well as the house as well as trying not to fall behind on my degree. I think I'm allowed a certain amount of panic, yes? :p :D
 
Thats exactly my point! ;)

I have an educated opinion on the subject so some of the replies here really annoy me!

Good luck and keep us all updated. :)
 
Thats exactly my point! ;)

I have an educated opinion on the subject so some of the replies here really annoy me!

Good luck and keep us all updated. :)

Sorry mate I should have made clear I was addressing the general populace about your point, not replying to you with a rant. :) Many thanks again for the helpful advice, and for understanding our position. It sounds like you've been round this block before. :D

I'll keep up with the thread where I can, and will update on Monday when I've spoken to the housing people and the agency etc. I'll chase up that solicitor too, as having someone 'on-side' for all the aspects this situation has created will no doubt prove invaluable.

Thanks again, and goodnight (morning?).
 
I had a mouse running loose in the house earlier this year. It drove my wife up the wall. Each day I'd get up early to clear up the droppings before she came down (droppings on the floor, and on the sofa). We have kids too and the cleanliness issue was a worry. I don't know where it got into the house but it was living under the floorboards. I could hear it at night when I was watching TV and sometimes it would scurry across the floor. It was a damn brave thing too and we'd often have standoffs with me trying, unsuccessfully, to catch it.

In the end I managed to get it with a trap (a humane one) but with just one mouse causing so much annoyance I can really appreciate how much a fully fledged mouse family can be a right pain.
 
And as I and some others have said previously, you'd be singing a very different tune if you were in my shoes. Are you seriously telling us that you'd happily scrape dozens of droppings and pools of urine off your plates and pick them from between the tines of your forks, give them a good rinse and then carry on using them? If you said yes, I'd say you're not speaking from experience.


Yes, actually. Plates are made from a non-porous material. After cleaning, there will be no contaminants remaining to pose a risk to your health.

I spent years living in the countryside, next to a working farm, in a big old cottage where flies got in through holes the windows and crapped on everything in sight.

It washes right off.

I'm sorry, but every time you try to justify throwing out plates and cutlery it just sounds absurd.

What traces of the rat pee/poo do you expect to survive a thorough cleaning? I mean a really good cleaning, with disinfectant. Obviously you wouldn't just wipe it with a paper towel...

Bedding - sure, chuck that if it can't reasonably be washed. But TVs, plates, cutlery... wow, I can't understand it.

Anyway, I don't want to ruin your thread, so I'll just read from now on and refrain from posting :p
 
OK, one final post from me, might even be helpful.

http://www.wbamc.amedd.army.mil/FeaturedItems/hantavirus.aspx

US army website said:
To rid a habitat building or area, how should the building or area be cleaned?

Cleanup of Rodent Urine and Droppings and Contaminated Surfaces
During cleaning, wear rubber, latex, vinyl, or nitrile gloves, safety goggles and dust mask.
Spray rodent urine and droppings with a disinfectant or chlorine solution until thoroughly soaked. (See Cleanup of Dead Rodents and Rodent Nests.)
To avoid generating potentially infectious aerosols, do not vacuum or sweep rodent urine, droppings, or contaminated surfaces until they have been disinfected.
Use a paper towel to pick up the urine and droppings. Place the paper towel in the garbage.
After the rodent droppings and urine have been removed, disinfect items that might have been contaminated by rodents or their urine and droppings.
Mop floors with a disinfectant or chlorine solution.
Disinfect countertops, cabinets, drawers, and other durable surfaces with a disinfectant or chlorine solution.
Spray dirt floors with a disinfectant or chlorine solution.
Disinfect carpets with a disinfectant or with a commercial-grade steam cleaner or shampoo.
Steam-clean or shampoo rugs and upholstered furniture.
Launder potentially contaminated bedding and clothing with hot water and detergent. Use rubber, latex, vinyl, or nitrile gloves when handling contaminated laundry. Machine-dry laundry on a high setting or hang it to air dry in the sun.
Leave books, papers, and other items that cannot be cleaned with a liquid disinfectant or thrown away, outdoors in the sunlight for several hours, or in an indoor area free of rodents for approximately 1 week before cleanup. After that time, the virus should no longer be infectious. Wear rubber, latex, vinyl, or nitrile gloves and wipe the items with a cloth moistened with disinfectant.
Disinfect gloves before removing them with disinfectant or soap and water. After removing the clean gloves, thoroughly wash bare hands with soap and warm water.

They seem to think that most things can be cleaned and disinfected, including bedding and clothing (although you mentioned yours was chewed also, so I guess you'll have to chuck some out)

Notice how they don't say that plates and cutlery should be immediately destroyed? :p
 
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