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HD 6870 & HD 6850 vs. GTX 460 1GB: An Overclocking Study
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Thanks setter
However . . . lookin at your afterburner graph is kinda seems like you loaded up BFBC2 for 1 minute, ran around and then quit the game? . . . do you think if you played the game for one to two hours the temps would get a bit hotter? . . . I think its fair to say that the info you supplied is not enough to convince anyone the GTX 470 runs cooler than what the reviews show? . . .
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Seriously BW, don't take a sentence out of a context on a quote. The point I was making if people found the noise level of their GTX470 acceptable, then they have every right to do so...why should they keep having to take **** like "you are WRONG, your GTX470 is IS loud" from people that think otherwise? Sure everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everyone's preception of noise is different, but it crosses the line when someone try to force their own opinion onto other people.Hey lads,
I don't wish to admonish you but I just need to point out that what you both have said is "Flawed reasoning" and does not in anyway make the possible high noise levels of the GTX470 any more acceptable!
What you both have said is no differerent from saying
24stone? . . . I'm not fat, everyone else I know is at least 24 stone . . . I don't weigh anymore than them?
Dangerous area? . . . where I live is not particular dangerous? . . . there was only 10 stabbings and two shootings last week . . . this is no more than the last area I lived in . . .
Domestic violence? . . . I don't suffer from domestic violence? . . . my partner only beats me up twice a week . . . no more than the last person I was with
If that's the best you guys can come up with to alleviate any potential GTX 470 worries that the card sounds like a hoovercraft then you both may as well not bother saying anything at all . . . as a wise man once told me
"It is better to remain silent and be thought foolish than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt"
As I always say, if someone want a lower power consumption and quieter card, then go 6870; if someone don't mind the higher noise level, power consumption and heat but preference the overclocking capability more, then go GTX470. Also, if someone don't have good enough PSU for a GTX470, also go 6870...it is that simple.
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Hardware Canucks seem to make a decent effort in their benchmarking process? . . . I certainly think they are more reliable than most forum users . . . or at least I didn't see any forum users really make a huge effort yet? . . .
- GPU Benchmarking Methods Investigated: Fact vs. Fiction
- Your Guide to the Hardware Canucks GPU Benchmarking Process
How can you tell he ran the game for just a few minutes, could have been an hour.
Anyone considering a 470/480 and worried about temps, don't worry, below is my 480 at stock with 60% fan speed which is not load at all with the heaven bench looped for 30 minutes. Now my case TBH has crap cooling but I don't break 80c, with an overclock yes I increase fan speed but GPU stays below 83c. If you have a case with better cooling than me you can expect even lower temps and less fan speed so even less noise.
Anyone considering a 470/480 and worried about temps, don't worry, below is my 480 at stock with 60% fan speed which is not load at all with the heaven bench looped for 30 minutes. Now my case TBH has crap cooling but I don't break 80c, with an overclock yes I increase fan speed but GPU stays below 83c. If you have a case with better cooling than me you can expect even lower temps and less fan speed so even less noise.
The graphs were fine, I meant there wasn't any other info. Linking to the review would have been handy
In case it wasn't abundantly obvious from the thread title "HD 6870 & HD 6850 vs. GTX 460 1GB: An Overclocking Study" the people that are interested are looking at the differences between these three graphics cards when overclocked:
The one set of "Facts" about these three cards which is also not present or agreed upen is the price . . . quite important to some people!
- AMD® Radeon™ HD 6850
- AMD® Radeon™ HD 6870
- nVidia® Geforce™ GTX 460
Maybe I didn't look at them in detail enough but found it a bit too much to look at to compare them all. Maybe they should have left out one of the ATI cards and kept it to just one of each from the manufacturers or changed the way the graphs show the performance change, i.e. in % form as well.
Or could just be a long day
I cannot agree this statement - it assumes that 60% fan speed /83c max temp is acceptable - it's not to me and I'm sure there are others out there who would agree.
OR replace standard cooler with the Zalman cooler.
But point is that I had not had to consider either with the 5870 I'd been using.
Yeah well 60% fan on a 5870 is something like 4500 RPM.
You have no clue, maybe your card is/was noisy at 2000RMP, but a 480 at 50% fan 2000 RPM is just about silent. We can all slam aircooling when our cards are watercooled lol, the fact is they are not loud at all.
You have no clue, maybe your card is/was noisy at 2000RMP, but a 480 at 50% fan 2000 RPM is just about silent. We can all slam aircooling when our cards are watercooled lol, the fact is they are not loud at all.
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Yeah well 60% fan on a 5870 is something like 4500 RPM.
Almost correct, more like ~4000 RPM though.
You must live in a very noisy environment then
Loud, probably not (to most people). Silent? Never.
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Its funny how one of the loudest graphics cards to ever come out is being classed as silent when it clearly is not. Most people have different cards that are classed as much quiter and still think they are to much on the ear but one of the loudest is being dubbed as silent. Even Jen-Hsun Huang would not try to pass of a gtx480 with the term silent.
Its certainly not silent - but from my experience the GTX470 and 480 are not audiable above average case noise levels until the fan hits atleast 60% and only an annoyance when they get over 65%, in normal operation mine don't really exceed 49% - which keeps the temps under 77C and definitely not a noise issue.
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I doubt a gtx470/480 would have been a noise issue in my old thermaltake kandalf as everything about that was to loud anyway but in my new haf x 932 i think a gtx470/480 would be the loudest thing when playing games where as my 6870 loads at around 57-60 where the fan is not having to do much as i don't hear it. I never thought a gaming pc could be so quiet without water cooling until i changed cases.
Who's passing it off as silent, it's practicality silent as 50% as stated, fact is those that do not run the GPU in question should not question those that say it runs cool and quiet for them. You got guys posting proof their cards run at good temps at a good fan speed. Fermi hot and load, never, not if you have a decent case or even just a custom fan profile to ramp it up earlier.
The stock fan profile does tend to run rather low, barely over 50% for me, im only running mild clocks of 751mhz, doesnt get any hotter than stock and runs any game i currently play with ease so no real need to clock them higher. They can be loud if you want them to be, ie running endless loops of furmark or setting the fan above 60% manually.
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Raven with most cards you don't need to ramp it up lol. I just leave my card on the stock fan profile and all is good. I do agree though a decent case makes a huge difference.