Looking for a support for my knee, got pretty bad tracking on my right knee and since my inner quad is less strong than my outer my kneecap pulls to the right severly. Theres are hundreds of these types of supports out there on the market, looking to spend around £15 but only want one OCUK approved really.
Patella support + inner quad?
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some exercises to build up your vastus medialis muscle is probably more important than just getting a support. a physio should be your first port of call for this one I think to be properly assessed to see the cause and given some exercises, but normally its VMO strengthening exercises you need
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Exactly my thoughts. Had the same problems myself for years showing itself in dislocations on a fairly regular basis.
Yeah ive seen a physio for a number of weeks, most of his exercises didnt seem to help in the slightest although i was vigilant in doing them everyday, got an appointment on the 23rd to see the hospital again and go through my MRI scan and plan my op.
plan op, for?
Also, exercises that you need to do each day wont really strengthen up the muscles unless you are in a really bad way.
Are you seeing a normal NHS physio or a specialist sports therapist type physio?
Also, exercises that you need to do each day wont really strengthen up the muscles unless you are in a really bad way.
Are you seeing a normal NHS physio or a specialist sports therapist type physio?
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I use this to assist with my patella tracking, more specifically as I ahve Patella Tendonosis of my right knee:
http://www.muellersportsmed.com/Knee_Jumpers_Strap.htm
They do an awesome range of products on there. The knee strap was £9 on a popular auction site.
They may do one to align the movement you have as well if you take a look, something like this:
http://www.muellersportsmed.com/Knee_Max_Strap.htm#
Obviously I'm not medically qualified so these are just suggestions for further research in conjunction with the appropriate person ie physio. I only suggest them as I didn't know they even existed so recommending them for furtehr research.
http://www.muellersportsmed.com/Knee_Jumpers_Strap.htm
They do an awesome range of products on there. The knee strap was £9 on a popular auction site.
They may do one to align the movement you have as well if you take a look, something like this:
http://www.muellersportsmed.com/Knee_Max_Strap.htm#
Obviously I'm not medically qualified so these are just suggestions for further research in conjunction with the appropriate person ie physio. I only suggest them as I didn't know they even existed so recommending them for furtehr research.
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forget it, i remember why i don't post in this section anymore. good luck with whatever you do, OP.
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I had a lateral release and a TTT after all the above was tried first, but thats good advice. Surgery as a last resort and even then it may not fix the problem. Surgeon will tell you this tho as part of the Ts and Cs.
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In this situation a brace/support would be well used to prevent further injury, but NOT to just help support the knee.
IE if your knee is moving over AND causing damage doing it, popping out of its track or becoming painful a support preventing it moving over is a great idea. If its not that bad then a support is simply stopping that inner quad muscle working as hard as it needs to, which isn't good when you want to strengthen it.
Static squats/most squats won't be particularly good, if you have muscle imbalance you don't want to do an exercise that strains the weaker and the opposite strong muscle the same, you want to hit the inner muscle as hard as possible and the outter as little as you can manage basically.
Some of the NHS physio's I've seen, and one/two private ones were, honestly, terrible, some of the ideas these guys have is laughable. Going to hugely better physio's and some of my many joint issues were solved very easily. I'd definately recommend trying a couple different physio's and essentially getting a second opinion.
Its also a real problem with doctors because some work with utterly awful physio's who think one problem will basically have to be fixed by some bodge job surgery, while another doctor works week in week out with the results from a truly fantastic physio and see's the same problems as easily fixable with exercise and no need for surgery. Theres very little in the way of consistancy in quality between physio's and treatments different doctors will recommend.
IE if your knee is moving over AND causing damage doing it, popping out of its track or becoming painful a support preventing it moving over is a great idea. If its not that bad then a support is simply stopping that inner quad muscle working as hard as it needs to, which isn't good when you want to strengthen it.
Static squats/most squats won't be particularly good, if you have muscle imbalance you don't want to do an exercise that strains the weaker and the opposite strong muscle the same, you want to hit the inner muscle as hard as possible and the outter as little as you can manage basically.
Some of the NHS physio's I've seen, and one/two private ones were, honestly, terrible, some of the ideas these guys have is laughable. Going to hugely better physio's and some of my many joint issues were solved very easily. I'd definately recommend trying a couple different physio's and essentially getting a second opinion.
Its also a real problem with doctors because some work with utterly awful physio's who think one problem will basically have to be fixed by some bodge job surgery, while another doctor works week in week out with the results from a truly fantastic physio and see's the same problems as easily fixable with exercise and no need for surgery. Theres very little in the way of consistancy in quality between physio's and treatments different doctors will recommend.
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Going to hijack this thread slightly if you dont mind op as you ahve been given some good advice, Is there a good knee support for someone with anterior and lateral ligament damage? I had surgery and everything and physio (injury was caused 2 years ago) but i get so much pain sometimes and my doctors are useless. Sometimes i know it hurts just due to support so does anyone else have same problem, if so what kind of supports do you use?
I've had problems with patellar tendonopathy (jumper's knee) and use the same Mueller strap as suggested above. That said, I don't know enough about your particularl problem to recommend it to you, and instead would suggest that you get a recommendation from your physio.
IIRC, the way quads work is that all the muscles restrict each other, so if my inner is weak then my outer cannot grow either until the weaker catches up. So some of the points above are flawed.
Ive tried physio for yes a number of months like you said above, on two occasions one when i was younger and one when i was older, my physio was just a normal physio, I wouldnt know how to tell if he was any good or not? If they say I need a lateral release I wont have it done, ive read to many horror stories on this procedure with very little success rate, I would however go for the realignment one.
Ive tried physio for yes a number of months like you said above, on two occasions one when i was younger and one when i was older, my physio was just a normal physio, I wouldnt know how to tell if he was any good or not? If they say I need a lateral release I wont have it done, ive read to many horror stories on this procedure with very little success rate, I would however go for the realignment one.
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I had a similar problem, but less severe. My osteopath gave me the most painful massage I have ever had. She managed to loosen up the muscles that tug against eachother causing the pulling action between the patella and the knee... it was the best money I have ever spent resolving the problem almost immediately...
She is the best!!!
She is the best!!!