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[TW]Fox;17937940 said:
I think its pretty quick for an A3, actually. Especially when you consider it came out in 2003, when 250bhp was quite a high power output for a 3.2 V6.

Just the book figures don't seem that impressive for such a big engine, no doubt the weight and Quattro system play a big role in that.

Anyway bet it makes a lovely sound and a fast cruiser, strange having such a big engine like you say in a hatchback :D
 
Yeah its quicker than most cars on the road for sure, is it the same engine found in the R32?

same basic engine but different. runs a few bhp more and some very very minor difference, i'd imagine more to do with internal politics at vw group than anything else would be the reason for the a3 getting a few more horses squeezed out of it


Just the book figures don't seem that impressive for such a big engine, no doubt the weight and Quattro system play a big role in that.

246 bhp just over 6 seconds to 60 and tops out at a limited 155 mph
no it doesnt have Quattro, it has haldex. same branding totally different system although the op would be looking at mk2's with the 2nd generation haldex setup which is a fair bit better than the original system as per the mk1 audis and mk4 golfs/mk1 tt's etc
 
same basic engine but different. runs a few bhp more and some very very minor difference, i'd imagine more to do with internal politics at vw group than anything else would be the reason for the a3 getting a few more horses squeezed out of it




246 bhp just over 6 seconds to 60 and tops out at a limited 155 mph
no it doesnt have Quattro, it has haldex. same branding totally different system although the op would be looking at mk2's with the 2nd generation haldex setup which is a fair bit better than the original system as per the mk1 audis and mk4 golfs/mk1 tt's etc

Not getting into a car war or anything here and I understand they are completely different cars, but my lowly 2.0 16V engine makes 0-60 timed at around 6.7 the 3.2 has a figure of 6.3 now the top end will trump my little pesky engine but to me it doesn't seem that quick. More of a refined crusing engine than a hot hatch something the OP is looking for?

A big engine like that in a small A3 would make the car a bit nose heavy and cumbersome, somethng like a Focus ST maybe better?
 
Not getting into a car war or anything here and I understand they are completely different cars, but my lowly 2.0 16V engine makes 0-60 timed at around 6.7 the 3.2 has a figure of 6.3 now the top end will trump my little pesky engine but to me it doesn't seem that quick.

It's half a second quicker for a start - plus the Clio is small and weighs nothing.
 
0.5 second? Pahhh thats nothing in fairness haha!! :p

no its quite a large margin to be fair, and your clio is french, it wont reach 60 without some sort of electrical failure anyway so a pointless debate
 
No, its quite a large margin, otherwise are you saying there isnt much in it performance wise between a BMW M3 and a Ferrari F430? Thats a 0.5 second difference as well..
 
Saying that I may be taking out of my behind!! Hmmm 0.5 could well be 1.5m? (covered in distance) I suck at maths so I reckon I am talking rubbish.

/Anyways not to derail the thread anymore sorry :)
 
Mazda 3 MPS - I literally know nothing about the car but remember the old one looking very normal with no hint of 'chav' despite being a really quick car?

Total shot in the dark and no idea how it fits in with budgets or anything.

did you watch dave today it had the mazda on and the st 220 0n :D
 
same basic engine but different. runs a few bhp more and some very very minor difference, i'd imagine more to do with internal politics at vw group than anything else would be the reason for the a3 getting a few more horses squeezed out of it




246 bhp just over 6 seconds to 60 and tops out at a limited 155 mph
no it doesnt have Quattro, it has haldex. same branding totally different system although the op would be looking at mk2's with the 2nd generation haldex setup which is a fair bit better than the original system as per the mk1 audis and mk4 golfs/mk1 tt's etc

The engine in the MK5 R32 is identical to that in the A3 3.2. It's the MK4 R32 that was slightly different.

The only real difference is the exhaust which is tuned for noise on the R32 and "refinement" on the A3. In reality both are loud and both sound great.

The 3.2 model isn't really much quicker than the 2.0TFSI (due to its weight) but fitted with the DSG gearbox it is still rapid.

As the op sounds like he wants a car as fast a GTI but has decent levels of refinement I would definitely have the 3.2 on my short list.
 
i could try and work it out but i'm on my 4th beer of the night and my brains not working

but at 60 mph your going nigh on 90 feet a second i'd imagine it would be a bit more than you think distance wise
 
The engine in the MK5 R32 is identical to that in the A3 3.2. It's the MK4 R32 that was slightly different.
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erm no

lots of subtle difference from the audi to the dub

off the top of my head

engine maps
dsg maps are different((albeit thats not really the engine)
the audi runs a noticeably shorter inlet tract
different intake trumpets on the cold external side of the air box
i could fire etka up and give you a part by part comparison but my beers getting warm

its like comparing 2 cartons of orange juice one from asda one from tesco

their both exactly the same, but their not
 
You might want to explain what you actually want then, as its not refinement in the sense most people would see it.

An ST220 is a more refined car than a Golf GTI - so what are you meaning by "refinement"?

[TW]Fox;17937371 said:
Mondeo ST220 is a more refined car than the Golf GTI - it's larger, with a longer wheelbase and a higher level of standard equipment.

It's probably more prestige as Kenai said.
 
erm no

lots of subtle difference from the audi to the dub

off the top of my head

engine maps
dsg maps are different((albeit thats not really the engine)
the audi runs a noticeably shorter inlet tract
different intake trumpets on the cold external side of the air box
i could fire etka up and give you a part by part comparison but my beers getting warm

its like comparing 2 cartons of orange juice one from asda one from tesco

their both exactly the same, but their not

What does that mean in the real world then?
 
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