CPR training finally paid off

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Im an emergency responder - a volunteer for the ambulance service, responding to 999 calls due to my remote location. I've been doing it for about 1.5 years, and deal with lots of little things - falls, broken bones, pre-existing conditions etc, all for up to an hour before paramedic support.

As part of my self development, I arranged to do some 3rd manning with a city ambulance service. Due to my responder'ing, it meant I could assist as well as observe. The paramedics asked me if there was anything I didn't want to see/experience. I said I wanted to see it all. They asked if there was anything I did want to see - I said CPR. I've trained many many times on dummies, but felt I needed to experience it on a real patient.

Long story short, we got called out to a lady with chest pains but 30 minutes later. Obvious she was having a mild heart attack as she spoke to us. As we talked to her, she had a cardiac arrest in front of us.

We moved her from her bed to the floor, and the paramedic started performing chest compressions. He then needed IV access, and asked if I was able to continue (I've trained for years, just never put it into practice). Luckily, I stayed calm and said I was able. I started chest compressions, and luckily the training came flooding back.

After probably 2 sets of 30, we attached the defib and shocked her - nothing, still VF. I carried on with chest compressions, and this time felt some ribs breaking (later turned out to be 4). You're trained that CPR presents the risks of ribs breaking, but it's very acceptable (it might hurt the patient, but at least they'll be alive to feel the pain). Certainly very strange - trained to expect it, but then to experience it, was very strange. Again, happy with myself that it didn't phase me (at the time) and I continued. FYI - chest compressions should be done on average, 5-6cm down into the chest, at a rate of 100 per minute.

After the paramedic completed the IV, we shocked a 2nd time. This time, our patient regained sinus rhythm. (Her heart started beating on it's own and properly)

We rushed her to hospital, straight up to the Cardiac Care Unit, and she was in an operating theatre within 10 minutes of arriving for angioplasty. (Which the consultant let me observe to help with the learning process - very good of him).

Angioplasty was a success, patient had an intra-aortic balloon pump put in which helps the heart by reducing it's load.

I visited the patient 10 hours later, having brought another patient into the hospital, so nipped up to the ward to poke my head in. She was semi-awake, but recognised me and smiled. I've no doubt that the paramedic with me would have probably had the same result if they were on their own, but knowing that I've had a part in saving that woman's life - a mother, a grand mother, a sister; best feeling ever.

The rates of recovery for an out of hospital cardiac arrest are scarily small, and was told that I shouldn't expect a successful resus all the time (hardly ever in fact). But this one, the one I had a big part with, watched it happen and set about doing everything I could to fix it, I'll always remember.

If you haven't done CPR training, or a bit rusty, please please do think about looking into it. Recovery chances are not as good as one would like, but you could make the world of difference. Latest CPR guidelines

Anyway, a semi-random thread - but I needed to vent my excitement somewhere!! It's further fueled my desire to enter the medical world.
 
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Very well done, having the training is one thing, but keeping cool to actually perform it is another.
 
Well done :)

I'm a trained St John Advanced First Aider, and like you want to put training into practice, but that means someone is in trouble. It's good to know that people can rely on you to help when help is needed.

If only more people took up first aid training.
 
You are a proper hero. Wow... just think what you have just given all of her loved ones for Xmas, and you never even met them.

You deserve to vent your excitement, your pride is justified!
 
Worst I touched up an old lady thread...

just kiddin, well done, nice to know all the time and effort you put in has paid off for you
 
Congrats man! You must be feeling terrific! Big well done to your hard work that's now been put into practice!
 
Well done. It is a horrible feeling when those ribs go crunch. But it does make the CPR easier after that. It's always a pleasant surprise when someone survives an out of hospital arrest, and a tribute to your (and the paramedics') skills. When I was working in cardiology, we always offered to show the paramedics the goings on in the catheter lab when we did primary PCI, it felt nice to be able to give some information back, rather than just taking the patient and the handover and leaving it at that.
 
Well done. It is a horrible feeling when those ribs go crunch. But it does make the CPR easier after that. It's always a pleasant surprise when someone survives an out of hospital arrest, and a tribute to your (and the paramedics') skills. When I was working in cardiology, we always offered to show the paramedics the goings on in the catheter lab when we did primary PCI, it felt nice to be able to give some information back, rather than just taking the patient and the handover and leaving it at that.

That's great to hear - as you said, nice when it's more than just the basic hangover.

What do you do?
 
100 chest compressions per minute? Isn't that a bit..too much/fast ???

No, that's the optimal rate (100-120) to keep the heart filled with blood, but not too fast so it doesn't have a chance to refill once pumped
 
100 chest compressions per minute? Isn't that a bit..too much/fast ???

No, the new guidelines are 100-120 a minute, remember that compressions are no where near as effective as a heart normally beating and fast compressions help to build thoracic cavity pressure to help pump blood round the body.

Its a good feeling getting sinus rhythm back, though the first time I was involved in an arrest was terrifying!
 
the big problem i find is that fatigue is a huge issue now with continuous CPR at that rate. the trick is to get hold of the airway end of things and let someone else do the hard work ;)

my best feeling was opening a chest in an arrested person, squeezing the heart and have it start beating again. mind you it only did so for another 45 mins before they died.
 
Well done , you have given the lady the best present she could have this christmas , her life. I take my hat off to you!
 
No, the new guidelines are 100-120 a minute, remember that compressions are no where near as effective as a heart normally beating and fast compressions help to build thoracic cavity pressure to help pump blood round the body.

Its a good feeling getting sinus rhythm back, though the first time I was involved in an arrest was terrifying!

I just have this visual of someone pumping at a rate of 100-120 per min and seems to be increadibly fast. It's always slower in the movies when they count 1,2,3,4.. - is that the same thing as the compressions you are talking about? (I know I must sound like a complete tool..)
 
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