First days are scary!

ic1male · 7 Dec 2010 at 11:47

neil3k said:
have an old fashioned before you go in.

Werther's Original? :confused:

atpbx · 7 Dec 2010 at 11:49

Its my first day working for a proper large company tomorrow.
I've just been told "its costing me a fortune to bring you in, they have given us some stiff targets to make it worthwhile".

So no pressure then.

Relentless81 · 7 Dec 2010 at 11:56

atpbx said:
Its my first day working for a proper large company tomorrow.
I've just been told "its costing me a fortune to bring you in, they have given us some stiff targets to make it worthwhile".

So no pressure then.

Make sure you keep saying "proper" in front of every sentance and you'll be reet

Begbie · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:15

I remember the first day of basic training. That was pretty scary.

Mr-White · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:17

Most first days they wont expect you to do much, you'll end up filling in paperwork, meeting the staff and shadowing one of your work colleagues

MW

arc@css · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:22

It's quite unlikely it will be as bad as you think. Things usually aren't.

All the best for your first day.

4T5 · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:22

Remember !!!

It is better to be thought a fool than open your mouth & prove that you are a fool.
Dennis Thatcher

jamief · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:25

sixty said:
Must be a new guy... The industry will soon knock that happiness right out of you.

Central to everyone's needs, but bottom of everyone's budgets and opinions.

Depends if you're IT support or IT dev

IT dev is a fantastic place to be. Assuming of course you're in one of the employers who realise that outsourcing development is a ridiculous idea.

FatBoyObese · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:27

Man up and get on with it.....

Seriously though, start as you mean to go on, be confident and you wont go far wrong....after all, you were picked for the job so they have confidence in you.

DJMK4 · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:32

My first time was good.

She didn't complain

randal · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:33

FatBoyObese said:
Man up and get on with it.....

Seriously though, start as you mean to go on, be confident and you wont go far wrong....after all, you were picked for the job so they have confidence in you.

Sound advice.

jamief said:
Depends if you're IT support or IT dev

Assuming of course you're in one of the employers who realise that outsourcing development and support is a ridiculous idea.

Fixed. I'm sure it works well for some people, but in my 10 years experience in large corporate IT I've never seen it done well.

Gilly · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:34

Relentless81 said:
Make sure you keep saying "proper" in front of every sentance and you'll be reet

Proper crimbo?

randal24 said:
Fixed. I'm sure it works well for some people, but in my 10 years experience in large corporate IT I've never seen it done well.

You've never seen development or support outsourced well?

I've worked in outsourcing all my (proper) career, and have only bad things to say about both when kept in-house when compared with professionals being brought in.

DJMK4 · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:36

I find "most" people that work in IT are pretty laid back, they have been in the two companies I have worked for, plenty of jokes, plenty of banter and you generally settle in within no time.

randal · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:52

Gilly said:
You've never seen development or support outsourced well?

I've worked in outsourcing all my (proper) career, and have only bad things to say about both when kept in-house when compared with professionals being brought in.

Sadly not, the exposure I've had to outsourcing has been because cost was the main driver. It's bound to happen though, when you've got a disgruntled work force being asked to hand over to an incoming force of workers known for being cheaper. Whilst the outsourced workforce may be great, if they haven't got the knowledge to pick up the role then they're never going to perform at their best.

Perhaps I should have been clearer, and differentiated between on and offshore outsourcing.

Gilly · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:56

Ah, I've never been involved in offshoring, only felt the pain from it

The pain felt from outsourcing on behalf of the previous staff is only temporary, and most would TUPE anyway unless they moved away from it.

randal · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:59

Gilly said:
Ah, I've never been involved in offshoring, only felt the pain from it

It's massively overrated.

We work closely with offshored colleagues, both as support partners and customers so we get it from both sides.

Gilly said:
The pain felt from outsourcing on behalf of the previous staff is only temporary, and most would TUPE anyway unless they moved away from it.

Depends on how well it's been implemented I guess, we're still seeing the same mistakes made after 5 years using one particular company. Despite documenting proper process, fixes, etc.. Very frustrating!

atpbx · 7 Dec 2010 at 12:59

Relentless81 said:
Make sure you keep saying "proper" in front of every sentance and you'll be reet

That says more about your misunderstanding of the usage of the word "proper" in that sentance, than my usage of the word "proper".

Mine- as an adjective

Yours- Adverb.

memyselfandi · 7 Dec 2010 at 13:01

Gilly said:
You've never seen development or support outsourced well?

I've worked in outsourcing all my (proper) career, and have only bad things to say about both when kept in-house when compared with professionals being brought in.

randal24 said:
Sadly not, the exposure I've had to outsourcing has been because cost was the main driver. It's bound to happen though, when you've got a disgruntled work force being asked to hand over to an incoming force of workers known for being cheaper. Whilst the outsourced workforce may be great, if they haven't got the knowledge to pick up the role then they're never going to perform at their best.

Perhaps I should have been clearer, and differentiated between on and offshore outsourcing.

I've seen both and been involved with both a various times (disclaimer I work for an outsourcing company)

Outsource, when done well, can work and allow for a smooth transition and allow a medium size company access to an IT department they would never be able to justify in house.

Unfortunately there are a lot of times where cost has been the over-riding factor and I know companies have had issues.

neoboy · 7 Dec 2010 at 13:17

This will be your only chance to establish yourself as the alpha male!

HunterTony · 7 Dec 2010 at 13:47

It's with a small, family-run business, and I will be one of three IT staff, so least I dont have to sit through all the corporate rubbish you get in larger companies...