Wikileaks - latest leak

yeah it's a real ball ache trying to make money when you give up everything you've got at once much better to slowly hand it out over time, get some repeat donations in.

From what I understand, the insurance is not all the remaining leaks, though it may well be. I thought it was a collection of potentially very damaging ones, in a fairly raw format i.e. without the usual redactions, etc.
 
Americas biggest mistake is how they have dealt with this. Their massive arrogance in any matter has reared its ugly head again.

They are like a spoilt child who has just been told no for the first time. Potential presidential candidates and influential figures calling for him to be assassinated. Pressuring everyone to try and screw wikileaks over. Declaring that the law should allow them to do what they want to Julian Assange and if it doesnt, then it should be changed.

They don't seem to realise that the world is a lot smarter than they are. The best hackers probably don't work for the government so its best not to **** off the black hat hackers in the public domain.

America has pushed its luck and its influence too far for too long and now its coming back to bite them. I have honestly given up on caring what is leaked next. I just hope they show the world America's and Everyone else's true colours.
 
So anonymous/4chan are targeting Mastercard, Paypal, the prosecutors and any other website that is bowing down to the government.

*grabs popcorn* This is getting interesting.
 
So anonymous/4chan are targeting Mastercard, Paypal, the prosecutors and any other website that is bowing down to the government.

*grabs popcorn* This is getting interesting.

The American government appear to have turned some slightly embarrassing diplomats' comments into a complete cluster****.
 
I love how the lack of understanding in a subject is represented to make the most attractive of headlines and stories.

So mastercard is hit by a DDOS, which as far as I know doesn't involve any hacking....just lots of pc's trying to access a webpage to overload it (at a basic level).

"'Operation: Payback' hacks into MasterCard site over payment network's decision to cease taking donations to WikiLeaks.

The website of MasterCard has been hacked and partially paralysed in apparent revenge for the international credit card's decision to cease taking donations to WikiLeaks.

A group of online activists calling themselves Anonymous appear to have orchestrated a DDOS ("distributed denial of service") attack on the site, bringing its service at www.mastercard.com to a halt for many users."


Source - Guardian - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/08/mastercard-hackers-wikileaks-revenge
 
I love how the lack of understanding in a subject is represented to make the most attractive of headlines and stories.

So mastercard is hit by a DDOS, which as far as I know doesn't involve any hacking....just lots of pc's trying to access a webpage to overload it (at a basic level).




Source - Guardian - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/08/mastercard-hackers-wikileaks-revenge

"Hacking" is used to refer to any computer mischief at all, even though hacking just means programming.
 
I love how the lack of understanding in a subject is represented to make the most attractive of headlines and stories.

So mastercard is hit by a DDOS, which as far as I know doesn't involve any hacking....just lots of pc's trying to access a webpage to overload it (at a basic level).

Source - Guardian - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/08/mastercard-hackers-wikileaks-revenge

They could confuse people by explaining that its not hacking in the stricktest sense of the word. They could then go into technical terms about how all of the computers used in the DDoS attack were taken over but again whats the point. I bet that you read plenty of articles that misuse technical terminology but you just don't realise as you don't understand enough to, also it is beside the point.
 
He isn't in sweden yet, whst evidence do they want. They are tgere to fight the extrdition warrant. Would we even have such info.
 
He isn't in sweden yet, whst evidence do they want. They are tgere to fight the extrdition warrant. Would we even have such info.

Generally (uk to US excepted due to one-sided extradition treaty :() a country must provide some evidence to get a country to extradite someone to them. For example, France can't just say to the uk, "oh send this guy over here please, ta". If the evidence is deemed not sufficient to warrant an extradition, then it will not go ahead.
 
Do you propose that is OK to extradite a person without seeing the evidence against him?

Yes as it's part of the eu and that is for the trial to decide.
In the uk all we need to know is is the extradition warrant valid and any legal reason we shouldn't honur it. I very much doubt that includes the ins and outs of the case ad thats for swedish courts to decide.
 
Yes as it's part of the eu and that is for the trial to decide.
In the uk all we need to know is is the extradition warrant valid and any legal reason we shouldn't honur it. I very much doubt that includes the ins and outs of the case ad thats for swedish courts to decide.

UK needs to know that there is enough evidence to suggest that a potential crime has actually been committed ...

It also needs information as to what charges the person will be facing, what sort of trial the person will get, and what sort of possible punishment he is facing
 
My understanding is that due to a very similar stance on human rights and accepted judicial processes within the EU, extradition proceeding can move faster, it doesn't allow, as far as I am aware for the extraditions to go ahead without evidence.
 
UK needs to know that there is enough evidence to suggest that a potential crime has actually been committed ...

Two statments then.

If his lawyers dont get access they will be granted more time at the hearing. As of yet i don't see any problems.
 
No, because in a case such as this where (as the judge has even pointed out) there is a clear danger of political or otherwise interference the UK would need to also know that none of that has occurred.

Which will be part of the hearing at his appeal. Not for assumptions and desicions now.
 
Which will be part of the hearing at his appeal. Not for assumptions and desicions now.

It will be part of the hearing that decides whether he should be extradited or not, as such his lawyers need access to the evidence so that they can prepare
 
It will be part of the hearing that decides whether he should be extradited or not, as such his lawyers need access to the evidence so that they can prepare

And as i said if they don't get it judge has no option but to postpone. We have a very capable legal system and it's nothing but his own smear campaign. Peope are getting their knickers in a twist over nothing. Lets wait for the hearing and if legal laws aren't followed that's when you start screaming, not before anything has happened.
 
Since he has been refused bail and is having to spend the time in jail I'm pretty sure his legal team don't want a postponement but want to get the hearing over and done with ...
 
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