The Sopranos Ending SPOILERS DUH!

_Jimlad_ · 10 Dec 2010 at 15:39

idiots that write and say he's died....

when did we see him die? The facts state he was alive when the series ended so he did not die. Reading anything into that is just stupid. It just shows that's the life he leads, he will never be able to truly relax and enjoy his family while he lives that kind of life.

Streeteh · 10 Dec 2010 at 17:18

_Jimlad_ said:
idiots that write and say he's died....

when did we see him die? The facts state he was alive when the series ended so he did not die. Reading anything into that is just stupid. It just shows that's the life he leads, he will never be able to truly relax and enjoy his family while he lives that kind of life.

Clearly you're a polite, positive lad who's always interested in debate.

Read my post, it explains my reasoning, it's not encrypted and i'd hardly rate it as an idiots post. If you believe every film and television show is only about what meets the eye then i feel sorry for you.

On reflection I've given that post far more attention than it deserves seeing as you started with an insult so i replace it with this:

Neeerrrrr neeeeeerrrrrr *raspberry*

Johnnytoxic · 10 Dec 2010 at 17:46

Tony gets shot in the head by the “Never hear it Happen” concept

Tony's Point of view:
0:26 - Bell rings, Tony looks up, Checks the entrance.
0:37 - Bell rings, Tony looks up, Checks the entrance.
0:54 - Bell rings, Tony looks up, Sees Carmella.
2:13 - Bell rings, Tony looks up, Sees guy and then AJ
3:57 - Guy goes into the toilet to collect gun ( Godfather reference )
4:30 - Bell rings, Tony looks up, Sees Black ( “Never hear it Happen” )

from http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/

zpos · 10 Dec 2010 at 17:53

I loved the ending. Not everything in life needs closure!

_Jimlad_ · 10 Dec 2010 at 18:36

Streeteh said:
Clearly you're a polite, positive lad who's always interested in debate.

Read my post, it explains my reasoning, it's not encrypted and i'd hardly rate it as an idiots post. If you believe every film and television show is only about what meets the eye then i feel sorry for you.

On reflection I've given that post far more attention than it deserves seeing as you started with an insult so i replace it with this:

Neeerrrrr neeeeeerrrrrr *raspberry*

dude he did not die, people who say so are indeed idiots, its like me saying i won the 100meter gold at the Olympics, when in fact i did not.... see my point???????

borich_planner · 10 Dec 2010 at 18:44

I think its the viewer who gets whacked

Streeteh · 10 Dec 2010 at 19:39

_Jimlad_ said:
dude he did not die, people who say so are indeed idiots, its like me saying i won the 100meter gold at the Olympics, when in fact i did not.... see my point???????

I see your point but, somewhat ironically, it's idiotic. You're basically casting aside the whole notion of subtext, an incredibly powerful and well thought of tool in film making.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but i'm saying your reasoning is terrible.

Destination · 10 Dec 2010 at 20:19

dexterrr said:
The black screen is David Chase leaving it up to the viewer to decide what they think should happen, there's no right or wrong answer, just your own interpretation!

Exactly.
He didn't answer it, you answer it yourself.
RDM said the same when he was planning the end of BSG, and wished he had thought of the fade to black first.

Von Smallhausen · 10 Dec 2010 at 21:58

Was there any reference in the Sopranos to five crime families in New York ? As I saw it they had only the one and no mention of the real state of play in New York and the Bonnano, Genovese, Lucchese, Columbo and Gambino families that dominated La Cosa Nostra in NYC.

drone · 10 Dec 2010 at 22:20

zpos said:
I loved the ending. Not everything in life needs closure!

_Jimlad_ · 11 Dec 2010 at 01:47

Streeteh said:
I see your point but, somewhat ironically, it's idiotic. You're basically casting aside the whole notion of subtext, an incredibly powerful and well thought of tool in film making.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but i'm saying your reasoning is terrible.

yeah im in a bad mood today, lost a mate to cancer after going to her wedding 7 weeks back

just being a bitch to everyone. sorry

i do believe he did not die and with the whole last 4 mins, the music builds up (crap song but hey) , you are drawn to things Tony sees, like the guy at the bar, he's constantly on edge, showing the life he leads, its a clever ending, but for me i see no reason to think he died.

the bit about the guy going to the toilet to get a gun, cos it happened in the god father is stupid, that happened because the dude knew he would be searched, unlike in a common burger joint.