OMG Amazon down
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Of course they will claim responsibility for it. They're a bunch of amateur computer hacker wannabes. In the 90's we called them "script kiddies". Using other people's software and/or scripts (thinking of that LOIC tool here, which is also just an amateurish tool) for their own gain. Real hackers write their own and tailor them to a very very specific purpose. And second of all, they aren't talking to the press whilst doing it.
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The number of 'bots' you'd need to take out Amazon is ridiculous. "Anonymous" themselves even said last week they'd need many more users to do it. Plus they said on IRC they're currently attacking MC. So it's unlikely to be them. But, they'll claim credit anyway, as that's what script-kiddies do.
Well the point is, they're anonymous, so you don't know who they are. I'm sure that's the case for the majority of them though.
The outage wasn't consistent with a DDoS. It was more consistent with a hardware failure (which is surprising because Amazon surely never allows itself to have a single point of hardware failure). That, or a more traditional hacking whereby a particular flaw was found and then used to deny service by like say screwing up their router configuration.
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Thing is, they don't pretend to be anything more. In fact, there was talk last night of the attack on Amazon being carried out by a black hat.
Enough people with hammers working away can turn a pile of scrap metal into a boat, or vice versa.
There's nothing wrong with using LOIC, no, they haven't spent 15 straight years of their life coding and learning the tricks of the trade. Doesn't mean their cause is any less relevant.
There are things more important than your opinion as well, freedom being one of them. Small groups trying to deprive larger groups of their freedom through obstructive or violent protest needs to be controlled to protect the freedom of the majority.
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Freedom seems to be a concept you are unfamiliar with, if you can consider a hero such as Assange to be a terrorist. These protesters aren't hindering freedom in any way, they're fighting for it.
Attacking the freedom of everyone to go about their lives is not the actions of freedom fighters, but children and idiots.
Assange started with a good point, now he's just being a bit of a plank...
Assange isn't a hero, he's at best a middleman who takes the credit for the risks and sacrifices others who actually obtain the material for him make.
Wikileaks and Assange himself have become a parody of what a whistle-blower really is. He is using information that has no need or reason to be in the public domain to further his own egomania and infamy.
He should have stuck to releasing exposé's on relevant topics and not the political babble of diplomats et al, he simply denigrates his own ideology and credibility by continuing to do so.
The same is true of his alleged "secret stash", if the information held therein is so important then is Assange not obliged by his own raison d'etre to release that information regardless of the risk to himself, or is he simply seeking attention and using wikileaks for his own personal aggrandisement and not out of some overriding responsibility or crusade against secrecy.
Sounds like his own words
I'd no doubt do the same in his position. Why not keep files back as insurance for his safety?