Student protest alternative..

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If the fees are so astronomical why dont all the students make themselves a little Facebook following(seems like a studenty thing to do) and boycott going to university altogether.

Surely if nobody goes, and instead sign onto the dole and put a huge strain on the welfare budget, then thats likely to be more effective than throwing things at police?

Stupid idea?
 
If the fees are so astronomical why dont all the students make themselves a little Facebook following(seems like a studenty thing to do) and boycott going to university altogether.

Yes please! This would get rid of the idiots who think the fees are unreasonable.
 
Haha expected them replies to be honest.

I didnt spend long on my idea, it just seemed to make sense in my head for a short period. Wheres the flaw in it?
 
Wheres the flaw in it?
Aside from many others, they're also crippling their own future. Not only in the sense that they won't be going to university right away, but if universities don't get at least some money coming in through students, they won't be able to operate. That way they never will be able to go.
 
Haha expected them replies to be honest.

I didnt spend long on my idea, it just seemed to make sense in my head for a short period. Wheres the flaw in it?

The fact that without the general masses reaching at least a degree level of education in the modern world, this nations already weakened economy would effectively mean we no longer have our only two remaining exports.. higher education and world-renowned educated professionals?

You're right, you didn't spend very long!
 
Aside from many others, they're also crippling their own future. Not only in the sense that they won't be going to university right away, but if universities don't get at least some money coming in through students, they won't be able to operate. That way they never will be able to go.

Wont that make universities backpedal on their tuition fees in order to avoid this then?
 
The fact that without the general masses reaching at least a degree level of education in the modern world, this nations already weakened economy would effectively mean we no longer have our only two remaining exports.. higher education and world-renowned educated professionals?

You're right, you didn't spend very long!

This loss would be a better scare tactic than Rioting then. Boycott higher education, then everyone craps their pants and gives you a better offer. Simples ;)
 
Wont that make universities backpedal on their tuition fees in order to avoid this then?

They simply can't back-pedal!

A good proportion of UK HE institutions currently *just* float, the government is substituting centralised help to this nations universities etc. by allowing them to charge students nearly 200% more than they currently can.

if they don't charge the extra then they WILL have less money when everything comes into play, so then they have two choices, cut back what they do (i.e. reverse this countries HE system), or go bankrupt. Either way its not beneficial to anybody aside from those trying to balance their books in central government.

They will have to charge the full amount or work out a way to exist on lower figures. I personally expect what many will try and do is bring in even more foreign students, as they bring in (per head) the same as home students now will, but already expect to pay 30k+ to study here.

EDIT: And to respond to your response to me, you know that's not how it works, all that would happen is we would have 2 or maybe 3 generations of ConDem led English people who weren't qualified and couldn't do anything outside of the country even if they wanted to. On the plus side, we'd have a great cleaning force...
 
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The fact that without the general masses reaching at least a degree level of education in the modern world, this nations already weakened economy would effectively mean we no longer have our only two remaining exports.. higher education and world-renowned educated professionals?

You're right, you didn't spend very long!
How do either of those count as an export? If someone is educated in the UK, and then leaves to work in another country that's a loss - the UK has "paid" for their education, but they are in another country paying that country's taxes etc?

Did I misunderstand you?
 
How do either of those count as an export? If someone is educated in the UK, and then leaves to work in another country that's a loss - the UK has "paid" for their education, but they are in another country paying that country's taxes etc?

Did I misunderstand you?

You do.

It costs money to get an education here, we sell that to foreign interests, as such we export our HE.

Some see it as us importing others students, but normally when you import you pay them for the product, not the other way round, so the only description is that we export our education.

In terms of us then loosing those we educate, that's certainly true, but from a Universities POV, the bottom line at the end of each year is VERY important, without money they simply don't work, they can't hire the best researchers or offer the best facilities to entice them, and they can't afford the best buildings to entice the students.

It's sad but universities have been forced to treat their students as a commodity, just one factor in the overall equation that makes them float each year. Given the figure of foreign students on some UK HE courses can be as high as 50%, it is indeed one of our great remaining exports.

EDIT: sorry pressed submit too early, WRT to loosing home grown talent, then I still see it as an export. We don't really lose them per se, they just operate in different countries. Take a look at Engineering consultancy as a nice example. Have a look at major building projects around the world, then see where the core team who design and develop them are from and ultimately are based, and many times you'll find it to be the UK. The same is true of many other highly skilled consultancy areas. We educate them here, there's no work for them here as we won't pay their prices, so they sell their expertise elsewhere, but often are based in the UK. Unfortunately even this is starting to change though as people base themselves outside of the UK's economy too...
 
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