Man assaults sister because her boyfriend wasn't Muslim

[OriginalJonty]

And then we have the Vicar, on a BBC program, claiming that Blackburn was worse than CAPE TOWN DURING APARTHEID?

And multiculture is working is it? and anyone who sees the problems with it is just a bigoted racist?

Because Apartheid Era South Africa was nothing in comparision to some immigrants moving in.

 

[Biohazard]

And then we have the Vicar, on a BBC program, claiming that Blackburn was worse than CAPE TOWN DURING APARTHEID?

Oh noes not a vicker.

So blackburn was worse than the apartheid.

Ok, I'm totally convinved.

And multiculture is working is it?

Who knows. Clearly not in your street.

and anyone who sees the problems with it is just a bigoted racist?

Nope, it depends on how you bring the debate to the table.

You just started ranting about muslims, and it's not a good way to convince people you don't keep your brains in your shoes.

 

[Patient Keeper]

What's that got to do with the muslims?

What happens every time?

White flight lol honestly.

Why don't the whites integrate?

Because as that man at 3.45 says, he doesn't want his kids getting educated in an environment where most of the kids have ENGLISH as their second language?

Why the hell are u suggesting that it is the natives' fault for not integrating? They are integrated, they are the natives? Do you seriously think that all these people in Blackburn moving out are just racist? All the people leaving London are just racists? All the people leaving Berlin, or Oslo are just racists?

They aren't racists, they are normal people.

 

[Danthus]

Why don't the whites integrate?

Surely the emphasis on integration should be placed on the people coming here.

Now if the majority of people are not racist bigots like you keep pointing out what is hampering that integration?

 

[Brian8bit]

EVERYBODY PANIC! THE SKY IS FALLING! IT'S A JEWISH CONSPIRACY! OH MY GOD! SPACE LIZARDS! 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! EVERYBODY IS GOING TO DIE HURPAN DURPAN 2012!

 

[OriginalJonty]

Article Probably Applies to OP

Happy Reading.

 

[Biohazard]

Surely the emphasis on integration should be placed on the people coming here.

How can those people do that when a whole country is apparently geared against them?

The press and popular opinion are not with them to say it lightly, so I'd say they have an uphill struggle.

We are the nationals, it's up to us to give a welcoming society.

Not one that judges on skin colour.

Yes it's a game of give and take, but can you provide me the proof in terms of data that it is them and not us?

Otherwise its speculative NONESENSE.

Now if the majority of people are not racist bigots like you keep pointing out what is hampering that integration?

Racism, mistrust, the press and two societies at war on a global scale.

This isn't the man you see on the streets fault.

 

[Janesy B]

Biohazard why are you writing like that troll in motors who would post a new line after a sentence? It's making reading this thread even more annoying.

 

[Biohazard]

Because as that man at 3.45 says, he doesn't want his kids getting educated in an environment where most of the kids have ENGLISH as their second language?

What does this have to do with muslims.

Why the hell are u suggesting that it is the natives' fault for not integrating? They are integrated, they are the natives?

Bit of an idiot aren't you?

Two social groups to intergrate.

Ie, if the muslims want to be our pals, and we don't let them, we don't get integrated.

Likewise, if they come here we want to be their friends, but they don't want us.. we don't intergrate.

What they hell would British nationals have to integrate into other than Britishness?

Do you seriously think that all these people in Blackburn moving out are just racist?

No, they are probably fed up of living in a **** hole.

All the people leaving London are just racists? All the people leaving Berlin, or Oslo are just racists?

All these people eh?

Any evidence to back up this rubbish?

They aren't racists, they are normal people.

Yes, and you are attaching 'white flight' to them all.

You discredit yourself.

 

[Participant]

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=954

Therefore, you'd expect to see a larger number of stories about muslim nutters than, for example, Jewish nutters. It's porportional reporting.

Castiel...The BNP get an abundance of press coverage...if you hadn't noticed...

 

[Biohazard]

Biohazard why are you writing like that troll in motors who would post a new line after a sentence? It's making reading this thread even more annoying.

Because I am typing sentences and not paragraphs Janesy?

It keeps it nice and simple for the participating audience.

Anything else?

 

[Patient Keeper]

White Flight has already been debunked so many times that I am surprised that you feel the need to create thread after thread to reiterate it ad nauseam.

It hasn't been 'debunked'. It is something that happens time and time again. London has a white majority yes, but there are several parts of london that quite clearly do not, and there is massive segregation. For example I spent parts of my life growing up in Plumstead, back then it was what I would consider 'multicultural', as in that there was a clear immigrant population but not extreme. Nowadays however the only family member I know that still leaves there gets attacked because she is white. The British people have left and the few that are left now get attacked, multicultural segregation at its finest.

I bet my life that Blackburn still has a white 'majority', but you can watch that Panorama program and see that it has obvious segregation, which according to one 'eye-witness' is worse than South Africa during Apartheid.

 

[Patient Keeper]

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=954

Therefore, you'd expect to see a larger number of stories about muslim nutters than, for example, Jewish nutters. It's porportional reporting.

Castiel...The BNP get an abundance of press coverage...if you hadn't noticed...

And thoes figures are also immensely out of date.

 

[Janesy B]

Because I am typing sentences and not paragraphs Janesy?

It keeps it nice and simple for the participating audience.

Anything else?

You don't need to make it nice and simple.

Nor do you have to patronise people.

It is annoying.

It's also stupid.

So please stop.

 

[RDM]

So when white flight happens every time a large immigrant population moves into an area, everybody is a racist?

Are you not putting the horse before the cart here? Surely 500 white families would need to move out before 500 asian families could move in? Is race/culture/religion the only reason people move out of generally poor areas or can you think of any other reasons as to why they might?

 

[OriginalJonty]

It hasn't been 'debunked'. It is something that happens time and time again. London has a white majority yes, but there are several parts of london that quite clearly do not, and there is massive segregation. For example I spent parts of my life growing up in Plumstead, back then it was what I would consider 'multicultural', as in that there was a clear immigrant population but not extreme. Nowadays however the only family member I know that still leaves there gets attacked because she is white. The British people have left and the few that are left now get attacked, multicultural segregation at its finest.

I bet my life that Blackburn still has a white 'majority', but you can watch that Panorama program and see that it has obvious segregation, which according to one 'eye-witness' is worse than South Africa during Apartheid.

You do realise Panorama usually likes to take the most controversial stance and skew the results accordingly?

Other instances include the "Addicted to Games?" and another one where one estate was branded one of the most racist in Britain (I'll try and find it) when in actual fact it was a minority of people causing trouble.

I wouldn't just trust Panorama (or just any one media outlet) for all your info.

 

[Castiel]

Castiel...The BNP get an abundance of press coverage...if you hadn't noticed...

Which was the point I was making, the media are the fault of the disproportion, not the actual fact that Muslims are more likely to be nutjobs.

 

[Participant]

And thoes figures are also immensely out of date.

There is no more accurate current information, as far as I'm aware?

 

[Biohazard]

You don't need to make it nice and simple.

Surely that is up to myself, the writer, to make what ever assumption and not you?

Nor do you have to patronise people.

Well you should have a look at yourself before you pull people up on their writing style for no reason then shouldn't you?

It is annoying.

It's also stupid.

So please stop.

Well, here is an idea.

If it really annoys you that much.

You could either stop reading it, stop commenting on it or what would be best is probably find something bigger in life to complain about, perhaps the mulsims?

 

[Patient Keeper]

What does this have to do with muslims.



Bit of an idiot aren't you?

Two social groups to intergrate.

Ie, if the muslims want to be our pals, and we don't let them, we don't get integrated.

Likewise, if they come here we want to be their friends, but they don't want us.. we don't intergrate.

What they hell would British nationals have to integrate into other than Britishness?




No, they are probably fed up of living in a **** hole.



All these people eh?

Any evidence to back up this rubbish?




Yes, and you are attaching 'white flight' to them all.

You discredit yourself.

Ah, so you really have no counter argument for why it happens other than that everybody is a 'racist'.

I really do think that when I mention 'white' flight people get their political correctness switch turned onto overdrive. I could be called native flight, its still the same thing: that the natives leave (regardless of colour, this could be Africa or India) when a large immigrant influx arrives.