BB Torch £459?
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Just you in all honesty...if thats what RIM gets away with selling it at then good for them...they seem to be selling pretty well but most people wont buy it outright ie they will do an upgrade or new contract if buying one.
The contract would, I assume reflect the retail price of the handset though...
I'm not arguing that if they can charge that much for it that they shouldn't, just surprised people would pay for it, either outright or through contract.
its a premium phone by the looks of things and thats how much they cost. they can probably charge what they want when they know that businesses world wide will lap them up
not forgetting that many people (outside of this forum atleast) care more about aesthetics and use as a phone/email/sms/mp3 than they do about apps and modding
not forgetting that many people (outside of this forum atleast) care more about aesthetics and use as a phone/email/sms/mp3 than they do about apps and modding
I've recently moved from iphone to blackberry (old school 9700 bold for £300 sim free). What it lacks it gimmicks and mindless apps it makes up for being the ultimate comms device for business on the move.
I can wade through and process emails super fast, something that I believe touch screen phones just can't do. Also everything on phone is pushed to me, even after new OS installed it still gets the email accounts setup again as if by magic.
Love the form factor and battery life around 3-4 times that of a touch screen also.....bought the missus one and we can just talk using BBM (no sms), and even fire large video files at each other via it.
Problem with RIM is they don't seem to be good recently at innovating, but I guess if it's not broken don't fix it.
Things I miss about iphone hmmm, not much really, few games but I never really used them anyway.
Will prolly stick with the 9700 till I see totally lag free and matured android phones about (close but imo still not quite there)
The Torch the OP mentioned is just a BB with a touchscreen.... does the job pretty well from experience
I can wade through and process emails super fast, something that I believe touch screen phones just can't do. Also everything on phone is pushed to me, even after new OS installed it still gets the email accounts setup again as if by magic.
Love the form factor and battery life around 3-4 times that of a touch screen also.....bought the missus one and we can just talk using BBM (no sms), and even fire large video files at each other via it.
Problem with RIM is they don't seem to be good recently at innovating, but I guess if it's not broken don't fix it.
Things I miss about iphone hmmm, not much really, few games but I never really used them anyway.
Will prolly stick with the 9700 till I see totally lag free and matured android phones about (close but imo still not quite there)
The Torch the OP mentioned is just a BB with a touchscreen.... does the job pretty well from experience
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It probably would but then look at how much people pay for the iphone or even the high end Android phones through contract...isnt the Nexus2 something like £600?? or something ridiculous as that??.
At the moment the Torch is RIMS flagship device and like i said earlier they will sell it at a price where people will buy it...i got mine as a bday pressie from the missus and yes she paid something like £460 i think.
Fact is in N America the actual device sim free is cheaper than here...but then thats nothing new as this is rip off UK.
I still love my torch 2 months on and cant see myself ditching it for something else but it will happen when RIM bring out a better torch or a better Bold model.
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im not sure why people put so much emphasis on BBM. about the only advantage it has over an average phone with unlimited texts (which just about every half decent contract out there offers anyway) as that it tells you when the recipient has read the message...woweee lol.
Black berries are masters at business phones, but next to other similarly prices phones on similarly priced contracts, they are distinctly lacking in features.
so, obviously, it comes down to a choice - business, or multimedia. As far as i'm concerned, it really is as easy as that. suffice to say im bored of BB's now - my next phone will not be a blackberry.
Black berries are masters at business phones, but next to other similarly prices phones on similarly priced contracts, they are distinctly lacking in features.
so, obviously, it comes down to a choice - business, or multimedia. As far as i'm concerned, it really is as easy as that. suffice to say im bored of BB's now - my next phone will not be a blackberry.
The consumer demand for BBM comes from under 21's currently in the UK through the lower end devices. BB is a lot more common in America and BBM's uptake there is because in america you pay to receive a text message. RIM have been called out by the press a lot recently for how average the torch is and their strategy with their playbook which personally, I'm not sure will launch with a great success. I personally hope for something a bit more fresh in 2011 to keep them in the game.
Sadly whatsapp are hardly reliable...BBM is far far more reliable....i find with whatsapp on my iphone that if i dont have reception it doesnt work or sometimes it doesnt connect....whereas with my BB, even if im on the tube ie underground, i can still fire off a quick bbm message...send it and lock my phone without having to unlock it when i get reception because it sends it when theres reception....ive yet to see if a BBM message has failed because there is no reception....ive sent thousands of BBM messages and they all send without any issues.
Whatsapp is a good alternative to BBM, i have it on my BB and iphone as i have various friends who use it but its hardly reliable and thats what fustrates me the most about whatsapp...it works when it feels like.
Anyhow am looking forward to seeing what RIM bring out in 2011...i think the playbook will be a good device, the specs are pretty good and im really interested in the whole QNX OS that RIM has been developing for the playbook....theres every chance that the QNX OS will make its way to the handheld devices....2011 is going to be interesting to see whats in store with the mobile market.
Of course it cant...but i was trying to say that unlike whatsapp which wont even let you type out a message when there is no reception...BBM still allows you to type it out, send it...it then waits for the phone to get reception then sends and delivers the message ie it will never fail in sending the message out ie you wont get a failed message pop up...hope that makes it clear as to what i was trying to say.
That is the point im trying to make in that compared to whatsapp and others, BBM is far far more reliable...a lot of companies have tried and failed miserably to emulate the BBM messaging system...there are rumours that RIM might make BBM multi platform...i hope to god it never happens though as that would ruin the whole BB experience.
This could be there down fall though - becoming complacent. I was reading an article in The Telegraph recently which was all about the rise of smart phones, in-particular the iPhone and BlackBerry; Two of the three big banks in the UK are now going to move from BlackBerry to iPhones as it's what the workers are demanding and there are apps being developed which will make the information being passed etc as secure as the BlackBerry... and other firms are following suit. So the security they've had with, no matter what they release, the business world would be snapping up there phones is slowly beginning to slip.
If it continues, school kids will be the biggest consumers of the BlackBerry. In the US and also in the UK now they're really taking off amongst them with BBM and very reasonably priced handsets i.e the 8520 and the other one...
Now there's no getting away from how good the BB is as a communication tool and the excellent querty keyboard and it's secure servers but there's only so long they can ride on those features with all the other new developments coming out.
The Torch is a step in the right direction.
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Trialled the Torch last month for work and its garbage.
Slow, laggy, keyboard is awful, screen res too low & the web browser is so bad its not even funny.
Much prefer my aged and battered 9000 Bold.
I wouldn't buy it if it was £200.
Slow, laggy, keyboard is awful, screen res too low & the web browser is so bad its not even funny.
Much prefer my aged and battered 9000 Bold.
I wouldn't buy it if it was £200.
Cool story bro...if you prefer the 9000 Bold then that really just nullifies your comment as the 9000 Bold is old, slow and the browser sucks balls....dont think i ever used the browser on the 9000 Bold when i had it.